Fallout

I never played Fallout Tactics, but I got it for free years back (Bethesda gave FO1, 2, and Tactics for free to people who bought FO76). Is it like Xcom?

Cybsled said:

I never played Fallout Tactics, but I got it for free years back (Bethesda gave FO1, 2, and Tactics for free to people who bought FO76). Is it like Xcom?

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It's most like Jagged Alliance 2, as that was the big hit that came out when they were in early development for Fallout Tactics: Brotherhood of Steel. It just wasn't nearly as intricate/complicated as JA2. I think Jagged Alliance 1 was heavily influenced by the original X-com, so they are the same genera. I wouldn't go in expecting FO: Tactics to be the 2012 X-com remake though, it's simpler than that.

As much as I love Fallout 2, Jagged Alliance 2 was a much better game and would recommend playing it over Fallout Tactics.

One of the main/original creators of Fallout talking about the opening and his thoughts on the first 2 episodes:

Burns said:

One of the main/original creators of Fallout talking about the opening and his thoughts on the first 2 episodes:

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Just some history.

Tim worked on Fallout 1 and 2, via Interplay. But he did not work on the original wasteland.
He then went to Troika, for Arcanum, toee, and vampire bloodlines. then Obsidian for south park stick of truth, Pillars of eternity, Tyranny, and the outer worlds.
Carbine studios and wildstar is in there as well.

Producer/design/lead/director on fallout 1, 2, arcanum, toee, and outer worlds. just programmer on the others.

he did not work at bethesda or on fallout 3/4, 75, tactics, etc.

Tim mentions Brian Fargo.
Brian Fargo founded Interplay, created The Bard's tale (with crawford), Wasteland, Battlechess. produced tons of others as founder of interplay.. and then later inXile.

What's the bad blood, they jew him out of some cash?

hory said:

What's the bad blood, they jew him out of some cash?

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Something like that. I think he explains it here:

8/10 for me. Will watch a second season.

nu_11 said:

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She's like a mashup of Amanda Seyfried and Zooey Deschanel.

She is way hotter as a blonde

Kajiimagi said:

Was it any good and does it have a single player story to speak of?

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They added a regular Fallout questline/story to the game years back. While the game is online, you can pretty much do everything solo and most of the story interiors are instanced. There are also 'dungeons' you can run solo if you like - Expeditions that bring you to The Pitt or Atlantic City, Daily Ops, or Nuke Silos (if you beat the Silo and have the launch codes/keycards, you can launch a nuke and blow up any part of the map you want. Some spots will spawn bosses. Any nuke area gets mutated monsters and plants, which give more XP and different loot)

There are also public events which people show up for and all work together - they are either raid bosses (like Scorchbeast Queen) or things like Mothman Equinox where you have to help some cultists summon mothman by gathering sacrificial blood and protecting flame altars.

People shit on the game when it came out because it was very barebones and didn't have any traditional Fallout narrative, but they've fixed pretty much all of that.

This was great. Anticipation for a second season much higher than the first.




The people whining about wokeness are embarrassing themselves.

not starting epi 6 quite yet.

I saw arch make a vid complaining on lore, etc. I think he might be overstating it. Saw Josh sawyer shitting on canon in tweets.

I think theres something to say here. Its real frustrating to see creators that don't seem to understand their own creations at times. Authors that don't give any shit about the worlds they created. Why should we give any shit, if you don't? if you will retcon shit non-stop, why should we get invested at all? There are authors that have huge bibles, and are very protective. Then theres Bethesda, or blizzard, who retcon everything ever new quest/game.
Which is something we need to address. Bethesda's fallout has ALWAYS been retarded with retcons, and zero concern for lore.

sarah lyons getting offscreened. the east coast BOS at all. east coast supermutants. east coast looking like the mojave. dead prewar bodies still in place 200-280 years later. raiders. prewar jet, pipe guns in prewar safes, and so on, and so on.
So like, if your complaint on this SHOW is it retconning parts of the story... I mean. again every single bethesda fallout game has done that too.

Larian does this shit too. every single game has retconned the Divine story. (it is interesting games seem to be the worst for this)

Different opinion: Retcons aren't really retcons if you have unreliable narrators or data sources providing the original information and the "retcon" fills in the blanks.

For example: Fallout 76 adds a lot more backstory to the Brotherhood of Steel. Maxson still founds the BoS, but it adds context that other elders wanted to take power and essentially use him as a uniting figurehead, while weakening his support (sending lots of his pre-war allies on missions to remove them from the equation). Effectively, Maxson (the original) becomes BoS Jesus, but the Elders are the church and twist the message to whatever form best suits their continued hold on power. This jives with the subsequent Fallout games chronologically, as the Elders effectively have an irongrip on the BoS and the original goal of Maxson was lost for the most part. Maxson wanted to safeguard technology to help rebuild society, but the BoS eventually just became hoarders with no intention of ever sharing or restoring America. East Coast BoS in FO3 and 4 make sense because Lyons originally wanted to get back to the original mission of BoS, which was in conflict with the Elders.

As for Super Mutants, the more recent Fallout games just highlight that West Tek had other facilities working on FEV and FEV adjacent projects and that data was transfered out west. Which is realistic: Modern corporations will have information shared amongst locations. A defense contractor working on a major project isn't just going to keep every scrap of knowledge in one single location with no redundancy. Plus, most defense contractors are based and have most of their facilities on the East Coast, so a major player having stuff going on near DC makes a lot more sense than some spot in California only.