Ritley
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How you gonna make a tactics game list and not include shining force.
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Final Fantasy Tactics - The Ivalice Chronicles
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Gavinmad
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Rofocale (Saggitarius stone that Meliadoul gives to Ramza) and Mateus (Pisces stone that Iszlude gives to Alma, would have been Leviathan in FFT but they changed it for FF14 because Leviathan was already a primal).
Mustadio, Agrias, and Orlandeau have 'Lucavi forms' but that's just FF14.
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That’s funny. I was just thinking last night how most of what I was doing in FFT was grinding.
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13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim is sortof a tactics game. more like Ogre Battle than Tactics Ogre though. Cool story regardless, definitely worth checking out.
Phazael
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Grinding in FFT can be a thing, its just way less tedious if you do it right (surround last chocobo in a fight with chakra guys is the easiest speed grind, Dance and Bardsong is the fastest). But its not really essential to completing the game. Disgea has some ludicrous "Change to next version of class at L1 and grind 400 more levels" crap in it. And it has basically no real AI, while FFT enemies tend to fight both intelligently and opportunistically. Thats the biggest thing for me about both TO and FFT is that the AI is amazing and it seems like no one has been able to even match it, let alone top it, in the 30 plus years since its initial release. It just seems grindy and easy now because everyone now knows to do a couple grind ups early to unlock the good classes early on, which was not how people played games back then. And even if you did, the most grindy games of the time could be completely beat in under 50 hours of playtime. FF6 had a ton of things to grind on for completeness, but if you knew the game you still could do everything in under 50 hours. Disgea like games are basically designed to require 100s of hours to complete all the side stuff in them. Mind you I like some of them, I just do not see them as the same sort of game as the true Tactics game with AI and more fleshed out stories.
Phazael
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If you like the original Ogre Battle but not as an RTS, Soul Nomad and Unicorn Overlord are great games.
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yep, played both. the evil path in Soul Nomad is one of the most hilarious storylines in any game ever.
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Rajaah
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I think it's 10 different rare items, so you can't just farm ten Barettes unfortunately.
However, there are like 18 rare items from 18 different enemy types, and some are common drops (meaning some of the monsters have both rare and common carcasses you can use, and you'd need two of those monsters). Just have to get 10 of those 18.
Getting a pig and having it breed into the other two pig types will cover five of the ten needed items right there, because some pig types have a common and a rare that count. Hydras are the same way and could cover six. Unfortunately I missed getting the pig it gives you in Chapter 3 and now I can't seem to spawn them AT ALL in Chapter 4 (supposedly they spawn in Terminus, but no luck).
Final Fantasy Tactics - The Ivalice Chronicles Poaching Guide - How to get ten Rare Wares | RPG Site
This page lists all the monsters in Final Fantasy Tactics, how to poach them, and how to get Rare Wares.
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Scroll down to the chart and just get some of the bolded items, cross them off once you have them. Pretty easy trophy overall. The only endgame trophy that is really any kind of hassle has turned out to be the "max all jobs on one character" because that's just hours and hours of grinding.
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Only time consuming things were the poaching trophies, Deep Dungeon, and the "max all jobs" trophy.
I recommend doing the rare items from poaching throughout chapter 4, as things like dragons and hydras become available. Recruiting the pig in that one Chapter 3 fight makes the trophy a snap by the time you get around to doing it in Ch 4 and have a bunch of piggies to sacrifice.
Deep Dungeon is just a tedious PITA, but I found that the exit, much like war, never changes. So have Teleport on a character and use that to see the map layout, follow some online maps of where the potential exits are, and warp to 'em. Can try warping to the exits at the start of a fight and then restarting the fight until you find the right one. Managed to get through all of DD besides the last map in about an hour. Final fight took another hour because I had to also get Zodiark (had Ramza be the summoner and wear an accessory with Auto-Shell) and the fight itself is a hard one regardless.
Lastly, maxing all classes out. Did that with Ramza. Give him Shiradori and send him to Mandalia Plains by himself, max out his Bravery with Shout. Nothing will be able to hit him, so they'll all just stand there (except Black Chocobos, reset the map if they're present) and you can spam Shout until you have enough JP to max your current class. Takes maybe 15 minutes per class with JP Boost and fast forward. I did this at the end when I had nothing else to do, and had already knocked out about a third of the classes just from normal playing.
I recommend doing the rare items from poaching throughout chapter 4, as things like dragons and hydras become available. Recruiting the pig in that one Chapter 3 fight makes the trophy a snap by the time you get around to doing it in Ch 4 and have a bunch of piggies to sacrifice.
Deep Dungeon is just a tedious PITA, but I found that the exit, much like war, never changes. So have Teleport on a character and use that to see the map layout, follow some online maps of where the potential exits are, and warp to 'em. Can try warping to the exits at the start of a fight and then restarting the fight until you find the right one. Managed to get through all of DD besides the last map in about an hour. Final fight took another hour because I had to also get Zodiark (had Ramza be the summoner and wear an accessory with Auto-Shell) and the fight itself is a hard one regardless.
Lastly, maxing all classes out. Did that with Ramza. Give him Shiradori and send him to Mandalia Plains by himself, max out his Bravery with Shout. Nothing will be able to hit him, so they'll all just stand there (except Black Chocobos, reset the map if they're present) and you can spam Shout until you have enough JP to max your current class. Takes maybe 15 minutes per class with JP Boost and fast forward. I did this at the end when I had nothing else to do, and had already knocked out about a third of the classes just from normal playing.
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Merrith
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I think it's 10 different rare items, so you can't just farm ten Barettes unfortunately.
However, there are like 18 rare items from 18 different enemy types, and some are common drops (meaning some of the monsters have both rare and common carcasses you can use, and you'd need two of those monsters). Just have to get 10 of those 18.
Getting a pig and having it breed into the other two pig types will cover five of the ten needed items right there, because some pig types have a common and a rare that count. Hydras are the same way and could cover six. Unfortunately I missed getting the pig it gives you in Chapter 3 and now I can't seem to spawn them AT ALL in Chapter 4 (supposedly they spawn in Terminus, but no luck).
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Final Fantasy Tactics - The Ivalice Chronicles Poaching Guide - How to get ten Rare Wares | RPG Site
This page lists all the monsters in Final Fantasy Tactics, how to poach them, and how to get Rare Wares.
Scroll down to the chart and just get some of the bolded items, cross them off once you have them. Pretty easy trophy overall. The only endgame trophy that is really any kind of hassle has turned out to be the "max all jobs on one character" because that's just hours and hours of grinding.
I wonder if pigs can show up in any of the rare battles each map has. If not the only pre Deep Dungeon spots I know of are some Chapter 2 story fight (I already missed this, too), and Finath River (might have a new name?). Pretty crazy the pig covers half of the 10 items by itself with it's 3 types. Ribbon being common is weird.
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I was going to say that’s the stupid kid thing right? Played that for like 10 minutes, nope
if you look at the art for the humans in tactics, it’s very much largely the effeminate anime, which to be fair is also iconic to 7 and part of what made the franchise popular in the US (triggering anime weebo obsession), but its hard to back and look at the majority of soft looking men models, and not see that weird desire for a childlike little petite features aesthetic (no noses etc), as a opposed to something with rougher more rugged manly bravado. I’m not surprised they went in that kid direction