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Kirun

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TIL a bunch of boomers are really mad about the lack of physical discs while posting and gaming from devices that haven't had disc drives as a standard feature in over a decade.
 
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TBT-TheBigToe

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Everyone wants what Steam has without offering what Steam offers.
While the discontinuation of physical media should not be a surprise, everyone should have seen this coming as soon as digital downloads became viable, it does suck. Personally, I haven't bought a physical copy of anything in over a decade but not everyone has high-speed internet with unlimited download so physical copies should still be an option. Cooperate greed at it's finest.
 

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It’s also about owning your games.

Yeah you run the risk of that with Steam too but I have countless games Steam no longer sells and were taken off the store that I can still play…because I bought it and they honor it.

Sony gives zero fucks about that, as proven recently.
 
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And I have probably around a hundred PS3/4/5 and XB1/SX games on my shelf, plus a case with 50 Switch carts in it. Some of us still like to actually own things.
 
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Kirun

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People act like removing discs is some unprecedented betrayal when it's really the industry adapting to how software is built and distributed now. The disc is often just an installer or a license check, not the game in its final state and that has been true for years. We don't complain that our PCs lost floppy drives or that laptops stopped shipping with DVD burners. Technology moves on.

If your concern is digital ownership and preservation, that's a worthwhile discussion. But pretending physical media is still a practical, permanent solution for modern AAA games ignores how drastically software development has changed over the last 20 years.
 

Caeden

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People act like removing discs is some unprecedented betrayal when it's really the industry adapting to how software is built and distributed now. The disc is often just an installer or a license check, not the game in its final state and that has been true for years. We don't complain that our PCs lost floppy drives or that laptops stopped shipping with DVD burners. Technology moves on.

If your concern is digital ownership and preservation, that's a worthwhile discussion. But pretending physical media is still a practical, permanent solution for modern AAA games ignores how drastically software development has changed over the last 20 years.
I definitely just want to see a consumer first approach to digital ownership, but that isn’t very good for Sony, MS, or Nintendo.
 

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I definitely just want to see a consumer first approach to digital ownership, but that isn’t very good for Sony, MS, or Nintendo.

This. If they approached it like steam that’s something else all together. But they aren’t, and it will be as anti consumer as possible, just like it was with the movies a few days ago.
 

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If Sony turned around and said because physical is going away games will go on sale more often and cheaper (steam) and online play will now be free (steam) and we will automate refunds if you play less than 4 hours (steam) and PS+ prices are dropping by 30% then i'd be a little more forgiving.

but all they are saying is fuck you, pay me

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Haus

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If your concern is digital ownership and preservation, that's a worthwhile discussion.
This is the exact problem. The fact was that having the game self contained on a disc so that if you had the disc, you had the game, was the one way to prevent an arbitrary decision to make your "ownership" of the game vanish.

I don't think a single person is truly nostalgic for a round platter of plastic.
But that round piece of plastic was the actual product, own the disc, own the game.
Own the disc, own the console, play the game.
Not own the console, which only works so long as your online account is in good standing, and then play the games which are also contingent on their good graces allowing your account access to it, all of which can be digitally revoked at their whim.
It's the stance against the slow decline into Everything As A Service, with an ongoing fee to keep access to what you also paid to "own".
 

Caeden

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If Sony turned around and said because physical is going away games will go on sale more often and cheaper (steam) and online play will now be free (steam) and we will automate refunds if you play less than 4 hours (steam) and PS+ prices are dropping by 30% then i'd be a little more forgiving.

but all they are saying is fuck you, pay me

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Consoles only make some sense for people like me that basically want to dad game on a couch single player. I get it. Computers can do it too but it’s nowhere near as seamless. I think Sony already has pretty deep sales that (I think) are typically on par with Steam for some bigger titles like RDR2 and so on…but it’s time to allow online multiplayer for free for those partaking. PS+ does need to drop too.
 

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People saying $900 is too much aren't remembering PS3 launched at $599 which with inflation is now $1,012. So people will buy it and not care.
 

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People saying $900 is too much aren't remembering PS3 launched at $599 which with inflation is now $1,012. So people will buy it and not care.
Ps3 also drastically reduced it's price over time and initial launch lagged behind both Nintendo and Microsoft. Yeah people did buy it but it wasn't a raging success at that price.
 

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When PS5 launched, I remember they were very hard to find. Everyone wanted one, along with the xbox one or whatever the fuck it was called, but none could be had. It wasnt until like a 1/2 to a full year later that they were made more available. PS5 was first to be more available, the xbox was still hard to find.

Its also obvious the prices are hiking because of data centers and the availability of memory and ram. Im sure they would also be coming down too as time goes on if this timeline was not fake and gay.
 

M Power

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Ps3 also drastically reduced it's price over time and initial launch lagged behind both Nintendo and Microsoft. Yeah people did buy it but it wasn't a raging success at that price.
I remember PS3 being scalped and sold on ebay for at least a year. I had to camp out at Gamestop overnight for a preorder just to get one.
 

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My PS5 was April 2021, I had to load up 30+ browsers on multiple computers to get a good random placement on a playstation direct to even have a chance at buying one from "retail"

And yes the oldest, most shittiest PC on the damn Edge browser won the RNG. We all know that is destined to happen in such situations.
 
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While I have a few things on disc, I look at it in the following lazy way.

We are all mostly old enough to recall TVs without remotes. The 12 channel dial selector that requires you to get up and fiddle with It in order to change the program.

That is how I view digital vs disc games. In my head, people who avoid digital versions of games are those who also don’t use TV remotes, but prefer to go turn the dial. No thank you.