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You can just stop reading any time someone says "X game didnt flop because it was woke" because it's almost always disingenuous bullshit. The devs were textbook woke trash from the pronoun and mental illness infested bios to the 'its everyones fault but ours that this game sucked' post-launch attitudes. Even if they didn't go full Veilguard the stories of how they all thought their shitty game was amazing because the studio was one giant echo chamber tells the tale.

That being said I think you're confusing Highguard character designs with Concord. Highguard characters were just bland and forgettable, the characters Gak posted are from Concord.

Oh that's right. I guess I merged them in my mind, didn't even realize there were two similar huge flop FPS games.

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Oh that's right. I guess I merged them in my mind, didn't even realize there were two similar huge flop FPS games.

Simply stunning.
Concord
Anthem
Marathon
Highguard

I am sure there were at least a couple more all of the same genre that failed to a spectacularly embarrassing degree.
 

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Anthem actually launched pretty good, population wise, and was pretty popular for a few months. And yes it had some woke shit but not near the level they are adding these days. Anthem failed because like all unfinished mmo type games, lack of content and nothing to do when you reached a certain level of the game. Also later it was discovered that the maths behind all the game did not make any sense and was literally broken at the core. But yeah Anthem did not fail because it was woke, although it was the beginning of woke games for sure, it failed because it was unfinished sloppy mess and they could not push out any content.
 

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You can just stop reading any time someone says "X game didnt flop because it was woke" because it's almost always disingenuous bullshit. The devs were textbook woke trash from the pronoun and mental illness infested bios to the 'its everyones fault but ours that this game sucked' post-launch attitudes. Even if they didn't go full Veilguard the stories of how they all thought their shitty game was amazing because the studio was one giant echo chamber tells the tale.

That being said I think you're confusing Highguard character designs with Concord. Highguard characters were just bland and forgettable, the characters Gak posted are from Concord.

Feel free to point out what was “woke” about Highguard, or feel free to NPC parrot what social media tells you to think. It was just a bland fucking game. One of the best descriptions I saw of the game is it looked like those fake video games they show some kid playing in a movie or tv show.
 

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In other news, Bethesda confirmed a few things today

1) Fallout 3/NV remasters are being worked on

2) Obsidian is working on a Fallout game

3) They seem to imply that for now Fallout 5 is still theirs

4) Starfield is still getting content

5) FO76 is getting a Fallout 3 soft prequel involving Raven Rock later this year

6) Still working in ES6

7) Creation engine 3 (so no UE5 like was rumored)
 
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Pretty long post


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mkopec

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All these big Western studios have not done shit in years. And the shit they have done has been trash, woke, and utter garbage. All this needs to be scrapped and rebuilt from scratch. Or let some other upcoming Indie studio have their hands on a Fallout or Skyrim license with their massive budget and see what they can do. Games need to be taken from the corporate (mis)management and middle management cesspool they have now back to gamers hands. Games need to be once again made by gamers. Not Karens with a degree in art or writing that could give 2 shits about games or gamers. Some of those dykes actually HATE gamers. Imagine that. And its not just the Karens, its the Andy save a hoe cuck shitstains too that plague these studios.
 

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Or let some other upcoming Indie studio have their hands on a Fallout or Skyrim license with their massive budget and see what they can do.

Big budget always means strings attached. You have to answer for that money, so devs will play it safe more often than not because if you take a risk and it flops hard, then you’re pretty much done as a dev at that point
 

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Big budget always means strings attached. You have to answer for that money, so devs will play it safe more often than not because if you take a risk and it flops hard, then you’re pretty much done as a dev at that point
You call the latest woke trash games that failed HARD, some in upwards of $250 million loss, safe? These games are not safe by any means. Pushing the envelope of fairies, dykes, trannies and other miscreants to new levels never before seen in gaming. Its like they forgot who their target audience really is.

Tits and ass sell..This does not...

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mkopec

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Making all the characters so that no one likes any of them? Thats not a gamble, thats just sheer stupidity. And think of all the managers directors and middle managers that were involved with this mess and just think every one of them signed off on this.

Now lets look at the latest installment of Dragon age. Do you think that was a safe bet? Money well spent on sheer degeneracy?

Do you think handing off a Dragon Age license to a indie studio like, say... Iron Gate AB would have been a worse gamble? Youre not making any sense here bro. Youre saying that these AAA dont like taking risks, while all I see is risk after risk being made in pushing degen, woke, tranny shit, story and art styles that no one wants nor even cares about.
 
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Cybsled

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Making all the characters so that no one likes any of them? Thats not a gamble, thats just sheer stupidity. And think of all the managers directors and middle managers that were involved with this mess and just think every one of them signed off on this

I wouldn’t be shocked it Sony was sold “GotG meets Overwatch” and wrote the check. On paper GotG meets Overwatch sounds good (during their peaks anyways) and quirky characters fit in that mold because both properties have quirky characters.

The issue ended up being you can’t just copy a base concept, not fully understand what makes the base concept ideal to people, and expect money. Go back and watch the Concord teaser trailer thing they made to announce the game: it’s really clear they’re trying to imitate the GotG vibe, but it feels off like it’s a Temu GotG and forced. Then go back and watch the Overwatch teaser trailer or even the original GotG teaser: there is more personality and it doesn’t feel derivative like the Concord cinematic does. While cinematics aren’t the game, they sometimes can be a bell weather for what the tone of the game will be
 

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Bethesda leadership is a bunch of smooth talking shit stains. They must have been made to crawl over broken glass and beg Obsidian for the source code of FO:NV because their fucktarded company did not have it. This Drawn Out dude really does a great job of summarizing just how shitty Bethesda has been over the last 10+ years.