GoT - Is Over, Post Your Drogon Sightings

I can accept Arya getting the final blow, I guess, even though the "Price the was Promised" is thrown out the window. But it was done so cheaply. She just magically jumps out of nowhere (and screams while jumping, giving away her position??? why?) and ends it? How about have her disguised as Brann and at the last second she stabs the NK. Or have Jon actually make it to the Godswood, start to lose against the NK in 1v1 combat, and then Arya saves the day. Anything but the anime-teleport-behind-you-heh-nothing-pesonnell-kid bullshit.

I will say that I like that they subverted expectations about the undead being the big bad of the season though. You say you want a show that surprises you, well it's pretty fucking surprising that they just offed the biggest villain and his entire army only halfway through the final season.

Ossoi said:

Both dragons are in preview for episode 4

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Yeah, theres a very very brief shot of both of them flying (away?) from Winterfell as Sansa watches at the 22 second mark-

i think it being dark was a thematic choice. when the dothraki charge in, you literally can't see anything until they are like 5 feet from them. i think that was supposed to add to the night being... well. dark. and you know... full of terror... able things. but yeah, i think the idea was that the army was so vast, that you weren't supposed to be able to see where it ends, because it doesn't. it's just a sea of black. also, the compression issues clearly were working against clarity.

i think it'll be interesting if the show what bran was actually doing later on. he was absolutely unconcerned about the fight, so maybe he was warging up some future plot. it's odd because on one hand, he goes out of his way to tell people he's basically just a chronicler now, but then moves people around like he's playing chess.

I was always under the impression that GRRM had some input - at least with the major fights. In re: Arya killing NK. I thought it was perfectly done. I couldn't hear what Melisandre said to her before she (Arya) finally understood what she had to do.

Soygen said:

Damn, 10 pages since last night!? I'm not reading 10 pages of you autists crying about shit. Let me know if there is anything actually interesting I missed!

I saw some posts complaining about image quality. It looked great to me, streaming through HBO Go. Is the image quality better on HBO's apps, maybe? I know Comcast and ATT compress the fuck out of their "HD" shit.

Anyway, episode was pretty awesome as far as the show goes. It's clear(and sad) that George Martin probably doesn't have much input now. Almost nobody died and those that did were mostly B-list characters. You know 'ol Georgey would have killed a shitload of people. In the behind-the-scenes stuff, they said they knew Arya was going to be the one to kill the NK for the last 3 years. I wonder if that came from Martin or if the show runners made that decision. Guess it doesn't matter, since the books will never be finished.

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eh. would he? i mean... it's like the m. night shamalyan twist. everyone's expecting it. it's like the reverse of the first season when they kill ned and everyone's like WHAT?! now people are just expecting everyone to die so when they survive everyone's like WHAT?!

The Arya flying assassin shit felt cheap and lazy. As NK is impaling Theon and Jon is about to commit suicide on the undead dragon, my head is spinning with crazy ideas about how they manage to artfully end this.

Like maybe NK kills Bran and touches the tree and all the undead suddenly are back alive and it turns out Bran was the bad guy and the NK is really the bringer of life. Or Bran whips out his arch angel's staff of the apocalypse (255 charges) and goes nutso on the undead army. Or some kinda time travel shit on the rewindo harry potter watch deal. Who knows, but its gonna be something CRAZY. Nope - Arya just somehow makes her way from the bottom of the catacombs trapped by a million undead to arrive in the center of a ring of wall-to-wall undead to randomly one shot KO him. Didn't even bother playing up any of the finer points of the faceless men shit. Just lazy.

That said, I thought the ep was pretty awesome. Super ominous, great music. When the Dorthraki just disappeared into the darkness, I was like oh, they're actually going to make this episode insane. Finally something that will live up to the hype in this show. I was hoping for an immediate return volley of undead blue eyed dothraki charging into the unsullied like 2 minutes later. The undead giant was great as well, though i wish he just crushed that bitch out. Totally unneeded for him to die at all. Guess you can't win em all.

Soygen said:

Damn, 10 pages since last night!? I'm not reading 10 pages of you autists crying about shit. Let me know if there is anything actually interesting I missed!

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Look here, we put a lot of work into that autism.

Qhue said:

I kinda wonder why anyone bothers worshipping the Seven at this point. I suppose you could make an argument that the magic we have seen is not necessarily the result of a deity, but in cases where worshippers of a god have actual power I'd tend to think people would go with that.

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Argueably a forgotten plotpoint. But at one point they did show Red priestesses making conversions and spreading. The other issue is just, who has seen this magic?
Mostly just the main characters, etc. on the other hand, you would think the main character would comment MORE on this shit.

OU Ariakas said:

1. We have been shown in the past that touching a wight/WW with either Valyrian steel or dragons glass dusts them; yet within one fucking episode we have two high profile cases of this happening (Wun Wun, Night King) yet at other times they are stabbed and either bleed or just collapse into a heap. Arya's stealth kill being the worst example since it actually bled on her instead of shattering.
2. I know I mentioned it last night, but the whole set of White Walkers dying to one thrust after 6 years of doing nothing was really disappointing. They could have been interspersed throughout the battle taking on the heroes and given Theon and Jorah the deaths they deserved.

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Only white walkers get dusted after being touched with Valy steel or dragon glass. Regular wights are just normal undead and you either have to cut them to fucking bits or burn them to stop their reanimation - we've seen arms cut off and still move (presentation to Cersei). Dragon glass does nothing crazy to them, and they have been hacked by valyrian steel by jon and its just normal cuts to them. At Hardhome it was only a white walker who got dusted when jon's sword swung through him.

but yeah I agree the writing was terrible with the white walkers last episode, they all just hang out in the back doing fuck all and then squad up as some sort of weird honor guard to the night king as he strolls into the gods wood, after doing his dumbass "lol fuck your dragon fire" move and really late reanimation in front of Jon. Its just all really terrible pacing wise, there were a million ways the same story beats could have been done in a far more interesting and better way with more white walker action and the Night King being a bit more protective of his ass, cuz you know, if he dies HIS ENTIRE ARMY DIES.

It would have been dumb as fuck but hilarious if arya stabs the night king and he just takes off his mask and its Syrio or Jaqen and he simply kills Arya as he says "What do we say to the God of Death?"