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Greek gyros are different though. Its ground meats and greek seasonings which are differnet from the middle eastern "earthy" seasonings. Its ground, like a sausage meat and formed into a loaf for those vertical spinner grilles or sold as a sliced loaf like you saw above. We buy that shit all the time. GFS sells it. Doner kebob is more like meat slices stacked, kind of like a schwarma meat. They layer that meat up along with thin cuts of fat which are all stacked on the spit spike.
No, the original greek gyros are also stacked meat on a vertical spit. The ground meat version, and mixing it with beef, is a relatively recent American innovation that has now become nearly universal. But its still not traditional, its just the version you find basically everywhere now.

Doner vs gyro is basically just the seasonings, and there isnt even much difference there from what I can find.
 

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Maybe youre right I mean they both come from really close place in the world, so it would stand that they were close other than seasonings. Just like many of the eastern eouropean dishes for example. They are sameish, but different if that makes sense. Like Polocks make their own version of Russian Borsch...etc...
 
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Lanx Lanx what temp do you normally wrap your brisket? I was thinking 175-180ish and paper.

Got my 13lber out yesterday to thaw and was gonna prep and dry brine today, get up early start the cook tomorrow. I also don't think I'm go to trim it all that much. I don't give a shit if there's some crispy bits or crispy fat on some of the edges, it's not competition, or for a restaurant. You ever try injections, was thinking about using some beef bone broth?
 

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Lanx Lanx what temp do you normally wrap your brisket? I was thinking 175-180ish and paper.

Got my 13lber out yesterday to thaw and was gonna prep and dry brine today, get up early start the cook tomorrow. I also don't think I'm go to trim it all that much. I don't give a shit if there's some crispy bits or crispy fat on some of the edges, it's not competition, or for a restaurant. You ever try injections, was thinking about using some beef bone broth?
175 is the usual temp where ppl say wrap w/ paper/foil/foil boat, the goldee method is to wrap to 195 and put a big dollop of tallow (b/c it will be super dry) to rehydrate.

i also did a trim vs non trim(still took the huge white cap off), there is more crispy bits in the non trim, but non trim felt juicier (maybe cuz i was doing goldee method for both)

non trim to me is taking off the huge white cap as i said and also taking off like fat that is like 1/2in thick still, you're not going to render that out (if you want tallow the white cap is more than enough)

i did injection my first few smokes, didn't care for it, didn't feel any more/less flavor, but then i was also using a pellet grill
 
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175 is the usual temp where ppl say wrap w/ paper/foil/foil boat, the goldee method is to wrap to 195 and put a big dollop of tallow (b/c it will be super dry) to rehydrate.

i also did a trim vs non trim(still took the huge white cap off), there is more crispy bits in the non trim, but non trim felt juicier (maybe cuz i was doing goldee method for both)

non trim to me is taking off the huge white cap as i said and also taking off like fat that is like 1/2in thick still, you're not going to render that out (if you want tallow the white cap is more than enough)

i did injection my first few smokes, didn't care for it, didn't feel any more/less flavor, but then i was also using a pellet grill
Actually got it prepped and seasoned earlier. I trimmed a little bit of the fat off but surprisingly the fat cap on it wasn't as thick as I thought it would be. There was just a section on one of the sides that was a little thicker but you can see the thickness on the other side and it wasn't bad. It also didn't have a mohawk. And was surprisingly even or symmetrical already, just kind of long and I'm wondering if I'm going to be able to squeeze the whole damn thing on the kettle. I'll make it work though and I'm sure as it shrinks, there will be plenty of room.

Now I just need to figure out what time I got to get it going. I might actually start it tonight let it roll, and periodically check, or just get up at like 4-5 and start. I've been waking up super early anyways lately so that might be the easiest.
 

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If I'm doing brisket for a party or something I always shoot for it to be done at least 3 hours before I want to serve it. You can hold it for a long damn time in a cooler but there's not much you can do to speed it up if it's taking too long. I once had one that I severely misjudged where it was done at 6 AM when I planned to eat at 5 PM. Stuck it in the cooler and it got a bit below what is supposed to be the safety rules but at 5 PM it was still about 140 degrees and it was great. I just wrap it in foil and then in a towel or two and put it in the cooler. I usually leave the thermometer probe in to keep an eye on it.
 
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If I'm doing brisket for a party or something I always shoot for it to be done at least 3 hours before I want to serve it. You can hold it for a long damn time in a cooler but there's not much you can do to speed it up if it's taking too long. I once had one that I severely misjudged where it was done at 6 AM when I planned to eat at 5 PM. Stuck it in the cooler and it got a bit below what is supposed to be the safety rules but at 5 PM it was still about 140 degrees and it was great. I just wrap it in foil and then in a towel or two and put it in the cooler. I usually leave the thermometer probe in to keep an eye on it.
I've got a few of those stupid Omaha steak styrofoam coolers from crappy Christmas gifts that I save specifically for resting meat. Figure out tossing in one of those. I just have no clue how long it's going to take on the kettle. I've done flats of corned beef that I turned into pastrami on it in the past, and I don't remember them taking maybe but five or six hours, if that.

We're not doing a party or anything but I'm sure I'll bring some over to the neighbors, so if it's ready after resting by evening time it'll be fine. I guess if I started to 5:00, and then shot for eating by 6:00 or 7:00, I would think that should give me plenty.
 

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I've got a few of those stupid Omaha steak styrofoam coolers from crappy Christmas gifts that I save specifically for resting meat. Figure out tossing in one of those. I just have no clue how long it's going to take on the kettle. I've done flats of corned beef that I turned into pastrami on it in the past, and I don't remember them taking maybe but five or six hours, if that.

We're not doing a party or anything but I'm sure I'll bring some over to the neighbors, so if it's ready after resting by evening time it'll be fine. I guess if I started to 5:00, and then shot for eating by 6:00 or 7:00, I would think that should give me plenty.
14 hours? whats the size of the brisket tho
 

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are you gonna cook low at 225 or high at 275?' you might not have rest time, i mean you can hold a brisket at 150 for hours, i would start earlier
Probably 275 is what I was going to shoot for. I'm just not familiar with a decent age of time on how much it's going to take the cook the damn thing.

How long do you wish typically take about that size?
 

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Probably 275 is what I was going to shoot for. I'm just not familiar with a decent age of time on how much it's going to take the cook the damn thing.

How long do you wish typically take about that size?

Probably 275 is what I was going to shoot for. I'm just not familiar with a decent age of time on how much it's going to take the cook the damn thing.

How long do you wish typically take about that size?
Mine was 16lbs, 15lbs after teimming probably, 18hrs
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I would say a 13lb at 275 would be 10hours to 170?
 
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Lanx

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Hey, meant to ask you, what didn't you care for about injecting it? What did you use? Thought you just not notice that big of a difference and it was just an unnecessary step?
idk it was my first few briskets, along with being a noob, i dont think it helped, it was one of those "flavor injectors". i dont think you need it for flavor, i dont ever see any of the popular smoking channels doing injections either.

if youre worried about dryness, that really is more fat and meat marbling and dont smoke it past 200 where the meat starts to denature and mush
 
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idk it was my first few briskets, along with being a noob, i dont think it helped, it was one of those "flavor injectors". i dont think you need it for flavor, i dont ever see any of the popular smoking channels doing injections either.

if youre worried about dryness, that really is more fat and meat marbling and dont smoke it past 200 where the meat starts to denature and mush
Like I said I was just thinking about doing a little bit of bone broth and I think I've got some Tony satchery real butter that I was maybe going to mix in with it. I don't mind a brisket that's not your normal flavor of just stupid salt and pepper. The rabbi put online was just kind of a hodgepodge of stuff I had floating around, there's quite a bit of cumin, garlic, and various other spices.

I'm of the mindset that yeah you can go to a place and stand in line and get good barbecue but at the end of the day at all kind of taste the same, it's the same Central Texas flavor profile, which isn't bad but it's not something I'm going to wait in line for 10 fucking hours for. I guess I'd rather go to a place that's serving something that tastes radically different and still enjoyable.
I just got done setting up the grill for when I get up in the morning, and talking with the wife, she doesn't care if it doesn't hit my original six or seven serving time. I can't imagine I'm going to screw it up, but I figured I'd try to get as much information as possible considering this is the first packer that I've ever smoked.

I just got to pace myself with beer tomorrow, but much like regular fishing, that's the beauty of an all-day barbecue.
 

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Like I said I was just thinking about doing a little bit of bone broth and I think I've got some Tony satchery real butter that I was maybe going to mix in with it. I don't mind a brisket that's not your normal flavor of just stupid salt and pepper. The rabbi put online was just kind of a hodgepodge of stuff I had floating around, there's quite a bit of cumin, garlic, and various other spices.

I'm of the mindset that yeah you can go to a place and stand in line and get good barbecue but at the end of the day at all kind of taste the same, it's the same Central Texas flavor profile, which isn't bad but it's not something I'm going to wait in line for 10 fucking hours for. I guess I'd rather go to a place that's serving something that tastes radically different and still enjoyable.
I just got done setting up the grill for when I get up in the morning, and talking with the wife, she doesn't care if it doesn't hit my original six or seven serving time. I can't imagine I'm going to screw it up, but I figured I'd try to get as much information as possible considering this is the first packer that I've ever smoked.

I just got to pace myself with beer tomorrow, but much like regular fishing, that's the beauty of an all-day barbecue.
are you using your weber kettle to smoke?
 

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are you using your weber kettle to smoke?
Yep. That's what I know, and I always turn out good pork butts and stuff off of it, despite the lack of real estate. Plus that's slow and sear has the water trough next to the coals, and putting down some foil under the brisket along with a pan that catch all of the drippings because I didn't trim, but figured I could use any of that fat to paste on before I wrap.

I've even got my pizza rotisserie ring on because it's got a thermometer, so I'll have another indicator of temp apart from probing.

I'm going to run this fucker fast and loose.