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I"ll 4th the Carebear statement! I wholeheartedly admit that I have turned into much more of a Carebear than a Corebear, primarily because of time and now because of a wife. Ah to be 13 again, like Teljair, Draegan, and Lonin.
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Whaddya mean, Steve? No one ever does that.Moorgard Mobhunter said:
Seriously, do you still get to hear about Frogloks and Caravans? Has Rihk sent you guys an email yet to gripe about ARAC yet?
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Since you cannot perceive depth in artificial 3D environments:karuden said:
- how do people throw grenades through windows in CS?
- how do people land grenade launcher rounds on you from 300 yards away in Americas Army?
- how do people place rockets at your feet from 200 feet away in Unreal and Quake
Oh right, it"s because you can perceive depth in artificial 3D. Also, I just walked to the refrigerator with 1 eye covered and I never bumped into anything. So where did you "learn" this stuff dude?
Not going to waste the electrons trying to explain facts to morons. Just chew on this ....3D means X, Y, Z axis. Just what is the depth of the 2D pixelated image on the screen in front of you? Oh that is right it has no depth from front to back of the image, hence IT IS NOT 3D!!!Froofy-D said:
You can NOT perceive depth from one monocular vantage point. If you don"t understand the concept then I suggest you do some learning and less mouthing off.
To perceive depth and to judge distances based on experience and points of reference, is two different things though.
I presume the latter is what people use while playing in 3d environments.
I presume the latter is what people use while playing in 3d environments.
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Heeeey fucknut!karuden said:
One"s mind can "perceive" depth due to optical illusions. When we see an item drawn in artifical 3d, our mind automatically assigns a certain bit of depth to it.
Thus we are given the illusions of perceiving depth. Thus we can judge "distance" in a video game.
We can also walk in familiar areas with one eye closed because ones mind automatically assigns a certain depth, due to knowledge of the area.
kk, now shut the fuck up please.
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I bet watching karudan playing any 3D game would be pretty funny. Falling off cliffs, running straight through the front window of the enemy base, trying to throw a grenade over a mountain.God this 3dz sucks!!!
Quit arguing semantics. Of course it is not truly 3d on a fucking flat display. However, our brain uses more than just binocular vision to determine how far or close something is.
Quit arguing semantics. Of course it is not truly 3d on a fucking flat display. However, our brain uses more than just binocular vision to determine how far or close something is.
Wait a minute! You mean there"s not an actual 3d world inside my monitor when I play these games?? Alert the presses... we"ve been had.karuden said:
Karuden has to be trolling, nobody can be that stupid. Can they? But just in case, if you can"t percieve depth in 2d, then why:
- can you tell what is farther away in photographs?
- can you determine depth from an image on a mirror?
- can you distinguish depth in movies and even cartoons?
BTW, isn"t the image projected onto your retina by your eye lenses essentially 2D?
- can you tell what is farther away in photographs?
- can you determine depth from an image on a mirror?
- can you distinguish depth in movies and even cartoons?
BTW, isn"t the image projected onto your retina by your eye lenses essentially 2D?
Time to read more into the info than I should!
So, better graphics than WoW, but not 1 billion polygons better I"d assume, or he"d have said something like that. If that"s the case, that"s a good route to take IMO.
The "episodic model" thing sounds really intriguing. The way he worded it, it actually sounds like a EQ progression server model. Once a certain point in the storyline is reached, a new chapter is released. Sounds really cool to me.
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So, better graphics than WoW, but not 1 billion polygons better I"d assume, or he"d have said something like that. If that"s the case, that"s a good route to take IMO.
The "episodic model" thing sounds really intriguing. The way he worded it, it actually sounds like a EQ progression server model. Once a certain point in the storyline is reached, a new chapter is released. Sounds really cool to me.
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"There are two types of MMO players right now: grinders and community players that enjoy the social aspect of playing with their friends," Close said. "But what about a good story, one that is developed over time and keeps players coming back for more?"
And to add to that "But what about a good story that hits numerous types of players and play styles in an engaging and meaningful way?"
That"s where we are, and where we are heading. There are certainly more than two types of players but for simplicity they can be lumped into those two groups for the sake of this comment.
And to add to that "But what about a good story that hits numerous types of players and play styles in an engaging and meaningful way?"
That"s where we are, and where we are heading. There are certainly more than two types of players but for simplicity they can be lumped into those two groups for the sake of this comment.
hey Ngruk, have you decided on a engine yet? and if not, have you looked at "tech5" by ID?
just curious because just from perusing what they are saying- in my opinion- would be very good for a mmo to use, also you could release said game on pc ,mac ,360 and ps3 with supposedly- zero- code changes.
as a side note, if someone was say at Fenway and yelled "HEY Ngruk" as you lean over the rail on the dugout, would you turn around and look to see who yelled it? (i almost did that a few weeks ago Guy i get tickets from has tickets 5 rows behind the dugout...as an aside, - my son was with wally on the dugout roof during the 7th inning stretch during that game-and got his name on the scoreboard for his birthday- also got a foul ball (beckett was pitching))
just curious because just from perusing what they are saying- in my opinion- would be very good for a mmo to use, also you could release said game on pc ,mac ,360 and ps3 with supposedly- zero- code changes.
as a side note, if someone was say at Fenway and yelled "HEY Ngruk" as you lean over the rail on the dugout, would you turn around and look to see who yelled it? (i almost did that a few weeks ago Guy i get tickets from has tickets 5 rows behind the dugout...as an aside, - my son was with wally on the dugout roof during the 7th inning stretch during that game-and got his name on the scoreboard for his birthday- also got a foul ball (beckett was pitching))
Reading that makes me think about the storyline in early Horizons days. Yes, I know,Horizons.
They had a pretty cool storyline about a war against the undead that progressed as you played and would dump some pretty cool events on the players. The storyline unlocked new races to play (as you liberated them from the undead) and new towns would open as well. Before the company who originally owned Horizons went under (Artifact, I think) every 2 weeks or so a new "chapter" would open with all sorts of events and changes to the game world.
In my opinion, if you are going to make a strictly PvE game, a progressing storyline that involves players is the way to go.
They had a pretty cool storyline about a war against the undead that progressed as you played and would dump some pretty cool events on the players. The storyline unlocked new races to play (as you liberated them from the undead) and new towns would open as well. Before the company who originally owned Horizons went under (Artifact, I think) every 2 weeks or so a new "chapter" would open with all sorts of events and changes to the game world.
In my opinion, if you are going to make a strictly PvE game, a progressing storyline that involves players is the way to go.