Green Monster Games - Curt Schilling
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I"ve disabled crossfire on my PC in favor of multi screen support. You won"t need SLI/Crossfire in any MMOG. The graphics in almost MMOG that is built decently should work on a new single graphics card.
Speaking of multi screens, I want to add a 3rd screen (so I can play, surf, and watch TV). Do i just need to install a 2nd video card and connect the 3rd monitor to that or is some voodoo with windows required?
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I can appreciate the fact that Ngruk can admit enjoying aspects of WAR despite flaws with design. I dislike certain elements of the game, but overall enjoy it more than most. Perhaps it has more to do with taste than anything, but there are some depth and strategy elements WAR has that WoW just didn"t seem to hold for me (then again, I wasn"t a min/max heavy raider).
He does make a point, though: while a design/gameplay model is important, fun is the most important. I"d agree with some that WoW is the anomaly, not the standard, for MMOs. Look at the massive amount of fail out there other than WoW in general. A lot of the MMOs out there have some strong elements of design, but as a whole are not as enjoyable (or fun).
I"d also have to admit on the other hand that WoW"s model was generally a correct one: distilling the more enjoyable elements of EQ down to be accessible for the masses. Problem is, it removes some of the most enjoyable elements that EQ held. Stealing this from the Evercrack documentary thread:
I can appreciate the fact that Ngruk can admit enjoying aspects of WAR despite flaws with design. I dislike certain elements of the game, but overall enjoy it more than most. Perhaps it has more to do with taste than anything, but there are some depth and strategy elements WAR has that WoW just didn"t seem to hold for me (then again, I wasn"t a min/max heavy raider).
He does make a point, though: while a design/gameplay model is important, fun is the most important. I"d agree with some that WoW is the anomaly, not the standard, for MMOs. Look at the massive amount of fail out there other than WoW in general. A lot of the MMOs out there have some strong elements of design, but as a whole are not as enjoyable (or fun).
I"d also have to admit on the other hand that WoW"s model was generally a correct one: distilling the more enjoyable elements of EQ down to be accessible for the masses. Problem is, it removes some of the most enjoyable elements that EQ held. Stealing this from the Evercrack documentary thread:
Excellent post. The true WoW killer will come about when an MMO allows accessiblity but also has options (requirements?) for community building, freedom, and challenge to the point of requiring real skill in certain circumstances. The biggest challenge for a designer will be making those elements of involvement a fun incentive and less of a burden to the casual/semi-casual player. Or the possibility of there existing a system where casuals and more serious/dedicated players can co-exist and still find the gameplay enjoyable (apart from simply raiding).Fawy said:
I ran original eq off of two voodoo cards on SLI back in 1999 lulz.
It was the bomb tho,and all presented on a 21 inch FD trinitron
It was the bomb tho,and all presented on a 21 inch FD trinitron
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Pre-TOA DAOC was the best PVP MMO ever created. Yeah it sucked leveling up the first time for the most part but once they added in the bg"s time flew by while leveling up, imo. There were alot of people that just stuck to the BG"s.
The diversity of classes that game had was pretty awesome and I dare say there was a class for almost every taste in that game. Yeah it had it"s balance issues which every mmo has but they did a pretty good considering how many they had.
And also one of the most overlooked things about the game was 8 man groups. It allowed for alot of flexibility. Personally I think no game should release with no less than 6 man groups.
The diversity of classes that game had was pretty awesome and I dare say there was a class for almost every taste in that game. Yeah it had it"s balance issues which every mmo has but they did a pretty good considering how many they had.
And also one of the most overlooked things about the game was 8 man groups. It allowed for alot of flexibility. Personally I think no game should release with no less than 6 man groups.
What engine are you using for your game again? For whatever reason I thought it was unreal3. If thats the case there should be a good increase in sli for those wondering.Ngruk said:
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The primary game engines associated with the game are Unreal (client) and BigWorld (server).
More about all the technology we"ve announced:
More about all the technology we"ve announced:
- BigWorld- Server
- Unreal Engine 3- Client
- morpheme- Animation
- Vivox- Voice
I keep thinking this game is going to use FPS style elements. mmorpg + fps style combat.
I could think of so many ways that could be ridiculously awesome.
I could think of so many ways that could be ridiculously awesome.
Hehe I ran EQ on a 2mb Diamond Monster (4mb total only 2 for 3D).
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Was lovely... that card costed me like 200 bucks.
As for SLi there"s ways of letting it help (using both GPU"s) without getting much in the way of the devs I believe, but it only uses the memory of the first card so it"s sorta of a energy waste (at least for MMO"s so far).
WAR was a lot of fun for like 3 months, played the heck of it, maxed a b wizard, a knight when they released and there"s not much left to see so I quit. But the concept of PQs and having any-time scenarios/bgs got Bliz to change their own design I think (at least WoW was just like WAR, anytime battlegrounds, by the time I returned).
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Was lovely... that card costed me like 200 bucks.
As for SLi there"s ways of letting it help (using both GPU"s) without getting much in the way of the devs I believe, but it only uses the memory of the first card so it"s sorta of a energy waste (at least for MMO"s so far).
WAR was a lot of fun for like 3 months, played the heck of it, maxed a b wizard, a knight when they released and there"s not much left to see so I quit. But the concept of PQs and having any-time scenarios/bgs got Bliz to change their own design I think (at least WoW was just like WAR, anytime battlegrounds, by the time I returned).
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Yeah I was glad to see Blizzard implemented the ability to queue from anywhere in the world, made BG"s a whole lot less of a pain in the ass, especially on alts.
I"d like to see them steal the public quest idea for their next expansion, and in fact I"ll be amazed if they don"t.
I"d like to see them steal the public quest idea for their next expansion, and in fact I"ll be amazed if they don"t.
God that would suck. I seriously get too much of that in WOW, I want a slow paced combat game with strategy on which spell to cast, not some twitchy "try to shoot the eyes!!!" experience. If they make a interesting world with lore written by Salvatore and overlay that with a FPS style of play I am gonna cry for one of my last hopes on a true online "Role Playing Game" ever being released again.Citten said:
I will also say, EQ was probably too group requirement heavy but WOW went too far to the other direction and not one server in the entire of WOW has a fraction of the sense of community that EQ servers created. There needs to be alot more group content in these games then WOW offered at the leveling stage.
And honestly alot more of a reason to do that group content like dungeons due to not getting 5 levels in 10 hours of play and trivializing that loot already. AKA a more reasonable level curve as well in the middle between EQ and WOW, probably leaning more towards EQ"s TBH. There was a slew of cool content that people simply skipped or missed in WOW due to the level curve being so bloody quick. A game does not need to take 50 days played to max out the level but it does not need to take 5 days played either.
Please include options to just grind mobs rather than questing all the time.
Playing EQ1 again the last couple of months its amazing how much I don"t miss doing any quests. At all. Not even a little bit.
Thnx
Playing EQ1 again the last couple of months its amazing how much I don"t miss doing any quests. At all. Not even a little bit.
Thnx
It"s nice to have some structure and cohesiveness to leveling with quests, and the option for greater rewards by exploring and paying attention to the NPC environment, but I agree with your sentiment; sometimes I just want to log in and grind out a level or two with minimal running around or seeking groups when I run out of solo quests.Flight said:
Old School Example: LGuk. As a Necro in EQ I could grind mobs solo for decent xp and some loot drops. In a group we could grind a larger part of the zone for more xp and more loot drops (sorry guys trying to camp Hand/Lord/Frenzied). LGuk also held a number of quests of interest (Hi2U Raster!) so it wasn"t only xp grinding and loot farming going on, but quest-seekers too.
(Of course, EQ"s stupidly-long spawn timers/rotations/KS"ing sucked, but that"s beside the point).
It would be nice to have places in the game where folks with out-of-game priorities could park their butts and still advance in the game at a good clip (even if "active" players, doing quests and such, level faster).
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Actually, grinding in WoW is faster then questing. And if you have the option for powerleveling (and who didn"t in EQ, don"t lie), instance boosting and tap grinding is insane xp.
If all you"re going to do with quests is have them reward xp, then I see no reason to not make both valid paths of progression. I"d like to see 38 do a little bit more with the questing experience then just making it a standard McMMO "Cash + XP + vendor loot /yawn" system.
If all you"re going to do with quests is have them reward xp, then I see no reason to not make both valid paths of progression. I"d like to see 38 do a little bit more with the questing experience then just making it a standard McMMO "Cash + XP + vendor loot /yawn" system.