Home buying thread

Captain Suave

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Massively increasing supply

"Massively increasing supply" is only true relative to the recent all-time bottom. We're not even close to oversupplying the market. 2005-2010 is what a bubble looks like. And it's even worse than this chart would indicate because in the background the population has grown by 50% since 1980.

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means lower prices

Here's the relationship between inventory and price. At best the current demand mismatch going to roughly flatten prices on an illiquid market. They just don't drop significantly unless people are forced to sell en masse like '08-'10.

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and it means those sellers that are under water are going to be under water even more so they are still stuck. It would help first time buyers though.

Builders are not putting up starter homes. If owners of existing properties are underwater, who is going to sell low to first time buyers? Look at the activity of first-time buyers and the ages of people who DO buy. It's the same boomers/GenX churning houses between themselves and rolling over their wealth.

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Affordability is extremely low right now and it's going to correct to the mean eventually. A bunch of people are going to end up under water again until inflation catches up. I don't see a way out of this corner that they have been painted into by a number of factors. The boom & bust is inherent in the way our money works.

Yeah, I think the market is going to be mostly stagnant until inflation drives up wages to match the nominal home prices. Then the march up will continue. We might see some temporary adjustment of mid single digit percentages, or even 10%+, but that doesn't put a dent in the spike of the last five years. It's also going to be a only for a historically tiny number of properties with the vast majority of homeowners sitting in place.

There just isn't going to be some broad-based 40% recalibration for tens of millions of homes that makes housing feel affordable for everyone that could possibly want to buy. Housing is going to remain expensive until we catch up on 15 years of under-development and then build faster than the population grows. That doesn't seem likely to happen, so it's just going to remain expensive.
 
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They keep saying that this is going to be the biggest wealth transfer in history as the Boomers die off, but the oldest are about to hit 80 next year, and it doesn't seem like it's happening.
 

Captain Suave

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They keep saying that this is going to be the biggest wealth transfer in history as the Boomers die off, but the oldest are about to hit 80 next year, and it doesn't seem like it's happening.

The inheritors will roll it deeper into real estate and drive prices up, lol.
 
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They keep saying that this is going to be the biggest wealth transfer in history as the Boomers die off, but the oldest are about to hit 80 next year, and it doesn't seem like it's happening.
My boomer parents are already dead, not that they left anything worthwhile anyway.