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I have a very large walk in pantry. I love it. Of course I don't go to the store every day or every other day. I store a lot of stuff I put up. Your requirements may be and likely are different. But I wonder how many people say "I wish I had a smaller pantry" after some time.
 
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Is that supposed to be your fridge in the corner of the kitchen? I wouldn't butt it up to a wall like that, especially if you were doing a french door fridge. Also, not sure what styles of cooking you do, but I think putting your range where it is will make it difficult to do a vent to the exterior.
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If you have the fridge up next to a wall on that side you won't be able to open the left door all the way and you may have trouble getting stuff in and out of it.
 
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Cad said:
If you have the fridge up next to a wall on that side you won't be able to open the left door all the way and you may have trouble getting stuff in and out of it.
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Right now we’re budgeting in the below for our appliance allowance. We’re going to plumb water and everything in the pantry for a freezer. Thought being that we’d rather use the kitchen space for one large fridge that we’ll open 200 times a day and not take up footprint with a freezer that we open minimally throughout a normal day.

I still have some concerns with it being there and blocking that pantry entrance regardless of which way it opens, so it is on our list of items to discuss.

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Right now we’re budgeting in the below for our appliance allowance. We’re going to plumb water and everything in the pantry for a freezer. Thought being that we’d rather use the kitchen space for one large fridge that we’ll open 200 times a day and not take up footprint with a freezer that we open minimally throughout a normal day.

I still have some concerns with it being there and blocking that pantry entrance regardless of which way it opens, so it is on our list of items to discuss.

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Usually those integrated ones are counter-depth rather than normal appliance depth, so they're a lot smaller than you would expect (they're not deep at all). We have 2 of those size sub-zeros in our kitchen side by side, and honestly it's a good amount of space but not nearly as much as it looks like from the front.

If you're going for practical rather than looks, I'd ditch that and get a commodity fridge (with no electronics as much as you can) thats free-standing. The counter-depth ones look fancy once installed but you really need your cabinets built in around it to give it the look you'll want, so you need custom cabinets as well.
 
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Cad said:
Usually those integrated ones are counter-depth rather than normal appliance depth, so they're a lot smaller than you would expect (they're not deep at all). We have 2 of those size sub-zeros in our kitchen side by side, and honestly it's a good amount of space but not nearly as much as it looks like from the front.

If you're going for practical rather than looks, I'd ditch that and get a commodity fridge (with no electronics as much as you can) thats free-standing. The counter-depth ones look fancy once installed but you really need your cabinets built in around it to give it the look you'll want, so you need custom cabinets as well.
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That’s a good point too. Our current Samsung (22 cu ft) is counter depth and we’ve made do, so I kind of took it for granted that the new one would be too. But you’re not wrong, given a totally new kitchen we could do a full size and have more space. My head was just like, oh, well a 36” column fridge is 22 cubic feet of dedicated fridge whereas the Samsung today is only 12.8 cu ft of refrigerator capacity, so we’re almost +10 with the Monogram. I’ll look into the other options though.

Nothing against SubZero or Wolf. We’ve looked at all of them at the local showroom. We’ve only got about 6,823 decisions left to make. I’ll punt this over to the appliance thread when we get a little closer to final selections.
 
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Sheesh I was looking at stuff at Lowe's today just for kicks, and there were really decent fridges for $499. I immediately went and got a few. I have some house flips coming up, and that's a good fridge for a good price.
 
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Cad said:
Usually those integrated ones are counter-depth rather than normal appliance depth, so they're a lot smaller than you would expect (they're not deep at all). We have 2 of those size sub-zeros in our kitchen side by side, and honestly it's a good amount of space but not nearly as much as it looks like from the front.

If you're going for practical rather than looks, I'd ditch that and get a commodity fridge (with no electronics as much as you can) thats free-standing. The counter-depth ones look fancy once installed but you really need your cabinets built in around it to give it the look you'll want, so you need custom cabinets as well.
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One of my favorite things about our house is the fridge back wall recesses about 6 inches into the pantry so you can put a full depth fridge but have the appearance of counter depth. Its framed in with cabinets so you can’t really even tell that section of wall is deeper.

highly recommend if you have it as an option, counter depth feel really small sometimes.
 
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Creslin said:
One of my favorite things about our house is the fridge back wall recesses about 6 inches into the pantry so you can put a full depth fridge but have the appearance of counter depth. Its framed in with cabinets so you can’t really even tell that section of wall is deeper.

highly recommend if you have it as an option, counter depth feel really small sometimes.
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Yeah, if we keep the fridge in that location I could always ask about bumping out the wall. It is exterior but planned to be a covered patio with an outdoor surface for grilling. But, as Cad correctly pointed out too, it’d need to be a full size single door because you couldn’t open the left side with it against the wall like that.

Good for thinking and talking through with builder. Would give us best of both worlds.
 
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Intrinsic said:
Right now we’re budgeting in the below for our appliance allowance. We’re going to plumb water and everything in the pantry for a freezer. Thought being that we’d rather use the kitchen space for one large fridge that we’ll open 200 times a day and not take up footprint with a freezer that we open minimally throughout a normal day.

I still have some concerns with it being there and blocking that pantry entrance regardless of which way it opens, so it is on our list of items to discuss.

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you want a deep freezer in the pantry? won't that take up like pantry space?
 
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Lanx said:
you want a deep freezer in the pantry? won't that take up like pantry space?
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It is just a thought. The Pantry is 12' x 6' so we're not super constrained where our cheap Insignia freezer would take up too much space. Before we decided to do our own build, we saw quite a few new spec homes that were setup similarly and it seemed like a good idea. The thought process really being that we as a family of 5 value refrigerator space over freezer space and to prioritize that in the kitchen area (see previous counter depth vs. full size decision). I mean, honestly, I open a freezer maybe twice a week. My wife opens it once a night to get something out for cooking or thawing.

Honestly, I'm kind of just stuck on this idea and being a little stubborn. It is as easy as that. The other side of the pantry is the garage which is 24'. I've already asked to bump that out to 25'. I think I mentioned earlier about removing the grocery hatch, we didn't ask for that, and it is like 2' from the garage door to the pantry and we're not that lazy.

Hopefully now that Thanksgiving is over we'll get some more feedback and a 2nd floor plan and move some of these discussions forward. I don't want to start asking to move walls and reconfigure a whole lot until we know what the upper level is also.

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Intrinsic said:
It is just a thought. The Pantry is 12' x 6' so we're not super constrained where our cheap Insignia freezer would take up too much space. Before we decided to do our own build, we saw quite a few new spec homes that were setup similarly and it seemed like a good idea. The thought process really being that we as a family of 5 value refrigerator space over freezer space and to prioritize that in the kitchen area (see previous counter depth vs. full size decision). I mean, honestly, I open a freezer maybe twice a week. My wife opens it once a night to get something out for cooking or thawing.

Honestly, I'm kind of just stuck on this idea and being a little stubborn. It is as easy as that. The other side of the pantry is the garage which is 24'. I've already asked to bump that out to 25'. I think I mentioned earlier about removing the grocery hatch, we didn't ask for that, and it is like 2' from the garage door to the pantry and we're not that lazy.

Hopefully now that Thanksgiving is over we'll get some more feedback and a 2nd floor plan and move some of these discussions forward. I don't want to start asking to move walls and reconfigure a whole lot until we know what the upper level is also.

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yea put that chest freezer in the garage like a normal bloke, you take up good storage in the pantry, and you might actually spoil your food more? if the deep freezer kicks on and runs, then it generates heat and the pantry air gets messed w/ then your potatoes and onions go mush

also you have to account for the lid to lift up, so thats even more pantry space you lose
 
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yea put that chest freezer in the garage like a normal bloke, you take up good storage in the pantry, and you might actually spoil your food more? if the deep freezer kicks on and runs, then it generates heat and the pantry air gets messed w/ then your potatoes and onions go mush

also you have to account for the lid to lift up, so thats even more pantry space you lose
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One of these, not a chest freezer. Our chest freezer is in the garage today. I wouldn't put a chest freezer back there. We've discussed ventilation in the pantry; I had that concern kind of too just in case.

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Chest freezers are strictly superior in almost every way to a stand-up, aside from footprint and access, stuff can get buried in the bottom of a chest freezer. But they're more efficient, lose less cold air, have more usable space for the same volume, etc.

2 chest freezers in the garage and you should basically be able to buy meat once per season on sale...

If it were me I'd also run them through a Jackery or similar battery backup, they don't really use too much power so with a 2kwh Jackery I bet you'd have 1-2 weeks of backup on your chest freezers, and even if they are totally dead they stay frozen for days if you don't open them. I'm just thinking if you have $1000 of meat in there you'd want to protect it.
 
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I have a standup freezer just to maximize space in the garage. Works fine.
 
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