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Kajiimagi

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You can but if they are found in violation through this process I believe it adds to the evidence? There's a whole arbitration process where they can leverage a judgment against the contractor through the state.

I don't want to write all the details now, but t was found in the hearing this contractor was not even registered to do residential work in the state and legally they tried to skirt the law by asking me to pull permits. They got grilled hard. Should have a decision in a few days.
Best of luck amigo. Fuck 'em!
 

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God fucking dammit, neighbor told me she would go 50/50 on materials for the fence. I said thats fine I will build it, stringers up today and started the pickets, going well. Then her son shows up and she wants to change shit, wants 6 inch base boards so it is taller. Yard is sloped so I was just gonna taper down with it. So with new plan stringers are wrong. Told them we didn’t agree to that or I would have built the fence different, put the posts 8 feet on center etc. she won’t budge so I say if that is what you want to do I am done building. Son says he can do it. We discuss new plan and he telling me he knows and done this before etc. I am annoyed but whatever less work and hard part done. I check like hour later and every picket is crooked because of course his first three are jacked. AND he isn’t tapering down so the 3 inch gap quickly become a 10 inch with the fucking top half over 20 inches above the top stringer. Swear he would have done the whole fence like that, pickets wouldn’t even reach the bottom stringers half way through if so.
Turns out he only agreed to do it because his mom said she would pay him for his labor, and she said to make it even all across the top…

I am FURIOUS…fuck this cunt and her deadbeat son. IF when he is done and mint if you squint is good enough I am gonna say fuck it. Swear to god though if he doesn’t move or add bottom stringers and just screws the 2x6s to the pickets I am gonna set the fucker on fire…
 
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fred sanford

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Quick question

I recently had some water damage at our house. We had a company come out, rip off the baseboards, and punch holes in the walls between all the studs. They used blowers and dehumidifiers to dry everything out.

I decided to fix everything up myself because they wanted $1k to patch and put the baseboards back on. We're at a point to put the baseboards back on, but as long as the boards are covering those holes, is there a need to patch the holes? The company was saying it was necessary to keep bugs out and give nails something to grip onto. As long as the nails don't go into the same spot where the hole is, I assume that wouldn't be a problem right? And as far as bugs go, the walls have a gap underneath them anyways, so it didn't make sense to me.
 

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Nothing is "bug tight" - even big ol cockroaches can essentially get into a paper thin gap - if your baseboards cover the hole...yeah your good imo, its really cosmetic. As you said the drywall ends at the sub floor with a little gap, unless you go caulk all of that, bugs will get through if they want to.

Perhaps some could say your going to have some flow with A/C negative pressure and you should patch the holes... if they did a consistent job - buy a sheet or 1/4 sheet of the proper drywall, cut 1" bigger square / rectangle- do the paper overlap method, and plop them in the holes with a bit of mud, and be done with it- then put up the base boards, again it does not have to be pretty if its not being seen.

By paper overlap patch - you cut a piece of drywall about 1-2 inch bigger than needed, then cut the "drywall inside" out from the overage / excess but leave the outer "paper" layer- put some drywall mud on the paper, plop it on, put a little more on the outside and give it a wipe with a trowel etc. and be done, doing it "better" would be some sanding and repaint.

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Nothing is "bug tight" - even big ol cockroaches can essentially get into a paper thin gap
my neighbor had a bug problem, not bad, but he couldn't solve it and he was selling the house, so i did a bit of google and we bought some Diatomaceous Earth powder, i went around and pulled out the baseboard moldings, squirted some de in there and kept moving, he said after a week he didn't see no more roaches.

i didn't tell the new neighbor that moved in about it tho
 
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Siliconemelons

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Quick question

I recently had some water damage at our house. We had a company come out, rip off the baseboards, and punch holes in the walls between all the studs. They used blowers and dehumidifiers to dry everything out.

I decided to fix everything up myself because they wanted $1k to patch and put the baseboards back on. We're at a point to put the baseboards back on, but as long as the boards are covering those holes, is there a need to patch the holes? The company was saying it was necessary to keep bugs out and give nails something to grip onto. As long as the nails don't go into the same spot where the hole is, I assume that wouldn't be a problem right? And as far as bugs go, the walls have a gap underneath them anyways, so it didn't make sense to me.

my neighbor had a bug problem, not bad, but he couldn't solve it and he was selling the house, so i did a bit of google and we bought some Diatomaceous Earth powder, i went around and pulled out the baseboard moldings, squirted some de in there and kept moving, he said after a week he didn't see no more roaches.

i didn't tell the new neighbor that moved in about it tho

I "knew" what Diatomacous earth was in general- but then now looked it up. Quite the versatile bug killer.... and lasts forever essentially.

fred sanford fred sanford while your walls are open, pour in some of this stuff, may as well have a layer of it inside your walls as continual bug deterrent.
 
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Nothing is "bug tight" - even big ol cockroaches can essentially get into a paper thin gap - if your baseboards cover the hole...yeah your good imo, its really cosmetic. As you said the drywall ends at the sub floor with a little gap, unless you go caulk all of that, bugs will get through if they want to.

Perhaps some could say your going to have some flow with A/C negative pressure and you should patch the holes... if they did a consistent job - buy a sheet or 1/4 sheet of the proper drywall, cut 1" bigger square / rectangle- do the paper overlap method, and plop them in the holes with a bit of mud, and be done with it- then put up the base boards, again it does not have to be pretty if its not being seen.

By paper overlap patch - you cut a piece of drywall about 1-2 inch bigger than needed, then cut the "drywall inside" out from the overage / excess but leave the outer "paper" layer- put some drywall mud on the paper, plop it on, put a little more on the outside and give it a wipe with a trowel etc. and be done, doing it "better" would be some sanding and repaint.

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In this case I think that would be more trouble than it's worth. These holes aren't that big. They literally took a metal spike and just punched holes in there. I'm just debating leaving them as is (being lazy) or just stuffing wads of spackle in there. It's just that there are dozens of these. The leak went across the outer wall of the entire side of my house (4 rooms), but wasn't bad enough to warrant cutting out the drywall.

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In this case I think that would be more trouble than it's worth. These holes aren't that big. They literally took a metal spike and just punched holes in there. I'm just debating leaving them as is (being lazy) or just stuffing wads of spackle in there. It's just that there are dozens of these. The leak went across the outer wall of the entire side of my house (4 rooms), but wasn't bad enough to warrant cutting out the drywall.

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…. They wanted 1k to… wipe some spackle on that….

Just put up the darn baseboards…
 
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Lanx

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In this case I think that would be more trouble than it's worth. These holes aren't that big. They literally took a metal spike and just punched holes in there. I'm just debating leaving them as is (being lazy) or just stuffing wads of spackle in there. It's just that there are dozens of these. The leak went across the outer wall of the entire side of my house (4 rooms), but wasn't bad enough to warrant cutting out the drywall.

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they already removed the molding, they coulda just stuck the sensor underneath there?
 

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Yeah that seems off… When I had water damage in my basement after they built it, they took out about a foot from the floor of the drywall all around the finished room for remediation. Feel like they can’t get much airflow in there with just holes.
 

fred sanford

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they already removed the molding, they coulda just stuck the sensor underneath there?
They tested for moisture before ripping everything apart. The meter just punches a pin hole in the wall for a reading. Those larger holes were to allow airflow to dry up the moisture.

Did that remediation even “work”? My work just had a flood and did remediation and they cut much bigger holes than…that…like wtf?
Yeah that seems off… When I had water damage in my basement after they built it, they took out about a foot from the floor of the drywall all around the finished room for remediation. Feel like they can’t get much airflow in there with just holes.
The leak was a one time thing that we caught quickly. It wasn't a lot of water, maybe half a bathtub full. We were able to soak most of it up with towels. The issue was that it was next to an outer wall, so it just flowed along the wall across several rooms. They came out within a couple of days and ripped off the baseboards, punched those holes, and setup 17 blowers + 3 dehumidifiers for 3 days. After that, everything was reading dry on the meters except a vanity. We've wanted to update that thing for a while, so I'll replace that through someone else I know that does custom woodwork.

In the process of pulling off the baseboards there were several spots where the outer paper of the drywall peeled off. So far that's what I've repaired. I cut the edges of that clean, patched it, and sprayed on some texture. We painted it all up yesterday so at this point the last thing is to put on the baseboards. I was just wondering about the holes since those guys curiously insisted they had to be filled even though they don't show when I hold the boards back up to the walls.
 
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They tested for moisture before ripping everything apart. The meter just punches a pin hole in the wall for a reading. Those larger holes were to allow airflow to dry up the moisture.



The leak was a one time thing that we caught quickly. It wasn't a lot of water, maybe half a bathtub full. We were able to soak most of it up with towels. The issue was that it was next to an outer wall, so it just flowed along the wall across several rooms. They came out within a couple of days and ripped off the baseboards, punched those holes, and setup 17 blowers + 3 dehumidifiers for 3 days. After that, everything was reading dry on the meters except a vanity. We've wanted to update that thing for a while, so I'll replace that through someone else I know that does custom woodwork.

In the process of pulling off the baseboards there were several spots where the outer paper of the drywall peeled off. So far that's what I've repaired. I cut the edges of that clean, patched it, and sprayed on some texture. We painted it all up yesterday so at this point the last thing is to put on the baseboards. I was just wondering about the holes since those guys curiously insisted they had to be filled even though they don't show when I hold the boards back up to the walls.
if youre still doing this for yourself i recommend getting an
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ozone generator

this thing will pummel any bad smells, do NOT go in the room, preferably leave the house for 12hours when you do it, it will literally kill you. you can even test it out on your car, my first time doing it, i did it to my car, closed doors then i opened the door and the whiff, whoa, i started dry heaving, like this must be what mustard gas is like, and my car had that smell for 2 days (i didn't even touch it) but after? neutral. it was a never smoked in civic, but 20years old. i've used it a good bit, used it on my old house, used it again on the house when i had a huge leak in the basement i didn't know about, 2 days straight and no damp smell.
 
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Kajiimagi

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my neighbor had a bug problem, not bad, but he couldn't solve it and he was selling the house, so i did a bit of google and we bought some Diatomaceous Earth powder, i went around and pulled out the baseboard moldings, squirted some de in there and kept moving, he said after a week he didn't see no more roaches.

i didn't tell the new neighbor that moved in about it tho
I always used boric acid powder. Not something you can eat though. The bugs get it on them and take it home with them and everyone dies. Takes about 2 weeks.
Bugs are one more thing I don't miss about the east coast though. Biggest bug I've seen here was a scorpion and I 'petted' it with my boot.
 

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I was just wondering about the holes since those guys curiously insisted they had to be filled even though they don't show when I hold the boards back up to the walls.

You do not want the air from your conditioned space moving inside the wall cavity. Depending on the age and construction of the house, there are all kinds of ways that happens but those holes are a direct line (purpose of making them) even when covered with a baseboard. Controlling air movement is very important to indoor comfort. Each item adds to the problem., however, those holes may not matter so much depending on severity of everywhere else your house leaks air.