Quineloe
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I think I have become a shitty human being
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Izo
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TrollfaceDeux
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Izo
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Damnit, Trollface. I was gonna score the last word before this sinking ship heads home. Ironic.
Tuco
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lulz. No surprise that Dumar thinks someone has a job so they can be coddled rather than perform.
Another tidbit of advice I heard a long time ago, if you've got a few really shitty employees that are being carried by everyone else, group them up together and assign a non-critical project to them. Since they don't have anyone to carry their weight they'll either change or fail, and when they do their failure will be untenable enough that you can fire them easily.
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Izo
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Don't we cater to everyone's weakness and strengths in some form or another? Isn't it the managers job to make the best of what he's got? Or do you rely on an endless stream of healthy, capably workers so you can simply can the old, weak, lesser capable? I'm not sure I understand the society or system here. Could you elaborate - is the US job market a survival of the fittest situation or is there a shred of moral obligation for employers? Does everyone in your nation consider non-healthy or lesser productive workers inferior? It looks like everyone here is ready to jump the worker and not even once think that the employer / manager / OP might be the one to blame here. What piece of shit manager calls his workers retards to their face? Holy shit I don't envy the citizens of 'the land of the free' here.
Izo
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Tarrant
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This is an interesting point, I just banned cigarette breaks a few weeks ago for this very reason. The sheer amount of entitlement that smokers had to get those breaks was mind boggling. I have one guy who is about to quit over it I think.
EDIT: Izo, this is your last warning. Stop trying to bait/troll.
Izo
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We need nets, and you know it - troll or no troll - you even resort to stupid posting yourself because of the lack of method - unless you're giving infractions (like you did).
OneofOne
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No Izo, someone who just hangs around work not doing anything deserves to be let go asap. You have to decide if you run a business or a charity, it's as simply as that.
Izo
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I doesn't surprise me, liberalism incarnate. But truly fucking someone for their genetics, or I don't know, lack of skills? That's just brutal.
Izo
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To you, maybe. Come live in socio-liberal northern Europe for a few years. I promise you'll see the light - and the horrendous and inhumane nature of what you're saying - you're fitting the description of the worker to suit your argument. He wans't 'not doing anything', on the contrary - and OP was being a massive faggot worthy of a sacking. Get a desk job, OP.
Izo
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Well, duh, with your world view influenced by your society's raw liberalism vs my socio-liberalism it's not hard to understand we come to different conclusions as to the true events behind OPs words. He may seem trustworthy to you for admitting to be a scum of the earth. To me he's simply that, scum of the earth, for abusing his subordinates - and even trying to justify it, as well as saying there is no ombudsman - his word is law. That's not a great leader. That's a fucking dictator. Desk job for OP is a mild sentence. You condoning this behavior says a lot about your society and you. Holy cow, I'd hate to be blue collar in the states.
It's the neo-liberal doctrine for the laborers like this poor guy who gets fired for, as the OP admitted, always being too nice. While management, as every single person who has been in a managerial role knows, sometimes does less work than this guy ever didn't do. But those neo-liberal policies don't apply to that class of people, only the poor shmucks not in white-collars.
That's America for you.
A real manager would take into account this job, his worksite, AND the people he manages. A manager has to account for and take into consideration the needs of his workers, even the shitty ones: he has to manage them just as effectively. You don't just axe someone for doing poorly, even consistently; you find a task that he can do. That's YOUR job as a good manager. Most Americans are totally shitty managers of people, and the result is a revolving door of a cynical, distressed workforce. Don't like this one? Next! is American HR policy.
A bunch of monkeys gouging each other's eyes for the banana.
That's America for you.
A real manager would take into account this job, his worksite, AND the people he manages. A manager has to account for and take into consideration the needs of his workers, even the shitty ones: he has to manage them just as effectively. You don't just axe someone for doing poorly, even consistently; you find a task that he can do. That's YOUR job as a good manager. Most Americans are totally shitty managers of people, and the result is a revolving door of a cynical, distressed workforce. Don't like this one? Next! is American HR policy.
A bunch of monkeys gouging each other's eyes for the banana.
Izo
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This explains so much on a rerolled moderator level too. I'm used to speaking my mind to my superiors if I see a problem, not catering to their ego while groveling. Respect is earned, not given.