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Platinum is def. A rare earth metal and commodity I almost never look at. Thanks for the info. May add it to the monitor list
 

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UPST has made a massive move up. $76 currently and my cost basis is $91, with earnings coming up 1st week of August. Used to be a $400 stock, if interest rates do get cut this should continue upwards..
 
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I’ve seen that ticker before but never followed them as a company. That’s a massive drop(400 to 70). What caused it and what’s the reason we think it’s fixed. That’s more than even TSLA bombs depending on daily tweet. Had to be fundamental and not just part of the brief market down spike.
 
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Myanmar is in the middle of a revolt, uprising or something I'm sure the tarrif is high on their list to fix right now.
Civil war and hyperinflation stemming from the military coup in 2021. The military junta government has been accused of genocidal tendencies on their minority Muslim population. I thought they had a bunch of sanctions of them already, so tariffs are a bit surprising.
 
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I’ve seen that ticker before but never followed them as a company. That’s a massive drop(400 to 70). What caused it and what’s the reason we think it’s fixed. That’s more than even TSLA bombs depending on daily tweet. Had to be fundamental and not just part of the brief market down spike.

They're an AI credit lending company that was issuing loans prior to interest rate hikes. They look at something like 700 data points as opposed to a handful like Fico. Once the rate hikes happened, I imagine their cost of lending and operations rose substantially which eroded their profit margin, hence the plummet from $400 to $13 or so. I've held the entire time and what I've understood is that over the years they've adjusted their business model to be profitable without relying on low interest rates, however now that rate cuts are likely on the horizon, I'd imagine their outlook is bright. In my opinion it seems like a highly algo driven stock with absolutely wild swings compared to the rest of the market, and it's typical for earnings reports to yield a +/- 40% move shortly after. Very high short interest on the stock.
 
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Just looked them up. Their operating costs are huge and their margins razor thin. They also don’t do the loans but run the AI bot from what I read that predicts repayability….aka credit worthiness. They claim for consumers you get approved faster with lower rates and for banks less defaults etc.

I can’t find exact details but I’m guessing they make money by splitting the difference in % on the loan somehow or maybe flat fee per loan or interval service charge. It’s a neat concept and use of AI for sure but imagine banks or the government will come up with their own system to maximize their own profits. I’m not sure how much competition they have in their space since they are essentially a risk management service connector, but they need to get their costs under control I think. May happen once AI gets cheaper?

you’re right I think this has some short term potential but they need to expand beyond just doing an AI credit worthiness check to maximum loan amounts and interest rates to survive long term as I think we’ll see shifts in this space as things get more digital. I don’t see 400 again anytime soon. for now you are correct, next earnings is aug 8th and it could get a decent bump. I’ll post if I make a play on it

I think the next major player which could disrupt financial system would some type of centralized loan thing like crypto does. Someone wants to borrow, they do or do not put up collateral and it gives a risk score and amount. People can choose to lend all or part of it(loan only goes through once fully funded) and like 90% of the interest goes to the people making the loans. The service just takes a cut. Almost like buying personal version of corporate bonds. Take super safe loans for 5-8% per year(still more than savings accounts) and in the realm of market personal loan rates. Or imagine a credit card program funded by people. So instead of 12-23%apr or whatever card rates are for average people you can 8-12% card funded by the masses and the masses get 10% return rates
 

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Just looked them up. Their operating costs are huge and their margins razor thin. They also don’t do the loans but run the AI bot from what I read that predicts repayability….aka credit worthiness. They claim for consumers you get approved faster with lower rates and for banks less defaults etc.

I can’t find exact details but I’m guessing they make money by splitting the difference in % on the loan somehow or maybe flat fee per loan or interval service charge. It’s a neat concept and use of AI for sure but imagine banks or the government will come up with their own system to maximize their own profits. I’m not sure how much competition they have in their space since they are essentially a risk management service connector, but they need to get their costs under control I think. May happen once AI gets cheaper?

you’re right I think this has some short term potential but they need to expand beyond just doing an AI credit worthiness check to maximum loan amounts and interest rates to survive long term as I think we’ll see shifts in this space as things get more digital. I don’t see 400 again anytime soon. for now you are correct, next earnings is aug 8th and it could get a decent bump. I’ll post if I make a play on it

I think the next major player which could disrupt financial system would some type of centralized loan thing like crypto does. Someone wants to borrow, they do or do not put up collateral and it gives a risk score and amount. People can choose to lend all or part of it(loan only goes through once fully funded) and like 90% of the interest goes to the people making the loans. The service just takes a cut. Almost like buying personal version of corporate bonds. Take super safe loans for 5-8% per year(still more than savings accounts) and in the realm of market personal loan rates. Or imagine a credit card program funded by people. So instead of 12-23%apr or whatever card rates are for average people you can 8-12% card funded by the masses and the masses get 10% return rates
That sounds like what LendingClub was. Turns out it was easier just to lend directly. Whatever Happened to Peer-to-Peer Lending?
 

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The article somewhat highlights my point. People don’t have the time to direct vet. So combining something like AI/official vetting with new technology and anonymity (at the peer to peer level, not account level) I think it could take off again. Basically it just widens the pool of borrowing options while offering individuals another method to gamble or earn interest That would beat traditional banks. I don’t know how you make it beat the market which is always a bit of a problem though. the loan rate would be to high and interest rate would be below market. I don’t think the payoff line can beat the current world. :(

it’s always an idea I loved though and while kickstarter is now full of trash, I love that concept too and some cool stuff has come out of it. I’ve even got a few items from there! Same as I used to love eBay when it was truLy person to person selling random shit from their childhood or attic that someone else wanted, then it became a storefront and now it sucks ass.
 

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Hol up.....
Advisor managed portfolio : 13%
Just investing in SPY : 12%

And I'm betting the advisor is charging at least 1% a year....

Unrelated :
 
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UPST was famous for this gem



I know I know. Markets do market things. None of it makes sense anymore aside from golden stocks with sensible financials.

anyone done research on if you put 1k into 25 potential meme stocks or something. How many do retarded UPST, GME, PLTR type moves upward. If 2-3 hit you could turn 25k into 250k. No idea how to find the 25 picks but I’d take one for the team and try it.

something like sell it up 500% or more or let it ride to zero.
 

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Who was it who was doing the Uranium plays here again?

I saw a vid come up (likely just hype) on my youtube feed a few days ago about Uranium and how we're on the precipice of needing shit-tons of it and the price isn't done mooning and blah blah blah.
What's the read on Uranium these days?
 
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Who was it who was doing the Uranium plays here again?

I saw a vid come up (likely just hype) on my youtube feed a few days ago about Uranium and how we're on the precipice of needing shit-tons of it and the price isn't done mooning and blah blah blah.
What's the read on Uranium these days?
I have mentioned a few times that in my ETF blend for longer term holdings I have a decent little pile of URNM..... I have been very happy as of late with it :
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Even if it's taken a bit of a beating this week....
 
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I have mentioned a few times that in my ETF blend for longer term holdings I have a decent little pile of URNM..... I have been very happy as of late with it :
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Even if it's taken a bit of a beating this week....
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Global Uranium Market: Production Ramps Up to Meet Surging Demand Amidst a Projected Decade of Growth
The global uranium market is experiencing a significant revitalization, with mining and processing activities increasing to meet a resurgence in demand for nuclear energy. In 2023, the world saw the production of approximately 54,742 tonnes of uranium (U). This upward trend is expected to continue, with forecasts predicting a substantial increase in both demand and prices over the next decade, driven by a global push for clean and reliable energy sources.
Current State of Uranium Production and Sales
In recent years, global uranium mining has been on an upswing. In 2022, approximately 49,355 tonnes of uranium were mined, a figure that rose to an estimated 54,742 tonnes in 2023. Kazakhstan continues to dominate the mining landscape, accounting for roughly 43% of the world's supply, followed by Canada and Namibia.
Once mined, uranium ore is processed into uranium oxide concentrate (U_3O_8), commonly known as "yellowcake." This concentrate is then sold to converters. The global trade in natural uranium saw exports valued at approximately $9.3 billion in 2024.
The subsequent stages of processing involve conversion and enrichment. During conversion, the yellowcake is purified and converted into uranium hexafluoride (UF_6), the form required for enrichment. As of the early 2020s, global conversion capacity stood at around 62,000 tU. The leading countries in conversion are China, Canada, France, and Russia.
Enrichment increases the concentration of the fissile {}^{235}U isotope. In 2024, the enriched uranium export market was valued at approximately $10.2 billion. The major players in the enrichment sector are Russia, France, the Netherlands, and Germany. The sale of enriched uranium is often governed by long-term contracts between utility companies and suppliers.
A Decade of Anticipated Growth: The 10-Year Forecast
The outlook for the uranium market over the next ten years is overwhelmingly positive, with a consensus among market analysts for sustained growth in demand and prices. Several key factors underpin this optimistic forecast:
* Nuclear Energy Renaissance: A growing number of countries are turning to nuclear power to meet their carbon emission reduction targets and ensure energy security. This has led to the extension of operating licenses for existing reactors and plans for the construction of new ones, including advanced Small Modular Reactors (SMRs).
* Supply and Demand Imbalance: For several years, uranium production has been below reactor requirements, with the shortfall being met by secondary supplies from inventories. As these stockpiles dwindle, there will be increasing reliance on new primary production. Projections indicate a potential supply deficit in the coming years, which is expected to drive prices higher.
* Geopolitical Factors: Recent geopolitical events have highlighted the importance of supply chain diversification, prompting Western utilities to reduce their reliance on Russian enrichment services and seek alternative sources.
* Increased Contracting Activity: After a period of relying on the spot market, utility companies are increasingly entering into long-term contracts to secure their future fuel supplies, providing a stable demand signal for producers.
Market analyses project that global uranium demand could increase significantly by 2035. Some forecasts suggest a rise to over 100,000 tonnes of uranium per year to fuel the expanding global nuclear fleet. This anticipated surge in demand is expected to incentivize further investment in uranium exploration and the development of new mines to bring more supply online. While price predictions vary, the general sentiment is a sustained upward trend, with some analysts suggesting that prices could revisit or exceed previous highs in the coming decade.
 
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This has been my annoyance with the Fed. They seem to constantly be looking in the rearview mirror for data and unable to make decisions based on forward projections.

Team "Transitory" will be their legacy for the history books.
 
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On the news the Pentagon is now the largest shareholder of MP...

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edit: My daughter will thank me one day from her yacht in the Maldives...

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Regarding upstart: saw an interesting comment on stocktwits. Basically, AFRM and UPST are similar companies and have been tracking the same way for a long time. Recently there has been a divergence. Why?

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