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TJT

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In my experience unlimited really is mostly unlimited. If you start taking like 6 weeks off during the year and you're also not crushing your actual work they will start getting on your case about it. Otherwise you can safely take 4 or maybe 5 weeks off during the year without issue. On top of any other holidays you may get.
 
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TJT said:
In my experience unlimited really is mostly unlimited. If you start taking like 6 weeks off during the year and you're also not crushing your actual work they will start getting on your case about it. Otherwise you can safely take 4 or maybe 5 weeks off during the year without issue. On top of any other holidays you may get.
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That sounds like unlimited is 4, maybe 5 weeks…
 
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Yes, no job will tolerate you being gone for months at a time. But you can indeed try I guess.

Don't be absurd with this literalist nonsense. No job has unlimited PTO where you can just absently collect your salary being gone all year. Everyone knows that. Unlimited is being unlimited on paper but with soft restrictions rather than strictly recorded holidays and absence balances.
 
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It is more of an HR ploy to avoid obligations to pay out accrued PTO. They tend to exploit employees with strong work ethics who feel guilty about taking time off. The company is happy if you only take 1-2 weeks off. It doesn’t cost them anything. Contrast this with a fixed PTO policy, where management will insist you take your allotted time off to avoid a growing liability on their books. Also, this is something you can grow with tenure, negotiate in transfers between companies, and eventually take 6 weeks per year of vacation without any guilt.
 
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TJT said:
Yes, no job will tolerate you being gone for months at a time. But you can indeed try I guess.

Don't be absurd with this literalist nonsense. No job has unlimited PTO where you can just absently collect your salary being gone all year. Everyone knows that. Unlimited is being unlimited on paper but with soft restrictions rather than strictly recorded holidays and absence balances.
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I’m not in tech but I have 6 weeks in my contract and sounds better than unlimited PTO although we don’t get a week or two at Christmas so it probably ends up balancing on the whole.

IMO companies wouldn’t offer unlimited PTO if they didn’t have some data that shows them people typically use less PTO in that setting than traditional setups or it wasn’t benefiting the company in some way such as having to pay out PTO mentioned above.
 
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I get that. But it is nice to not have to accrue days and just do what you want. I absolutely fall into the trap of my work ethic leaving me to not take enough days off a year. I have broke free of that more recently and borderline abuse it now. But for years I was the guy who never took vacation. Mostly due to retardation.
 
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