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TJT

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Hired on as 9-5, rarely weekends
24hr facility but enough redundancy that can catch up anything in the mornings

Wrong, underestimated nighttime tech help needs, so this week noon to 8.

Still not good enough, today and tomorrow want me 4-midnight, tomorrow being Saturday so also cancel morning gig that would've been an easy 100$ and the evening event of my friend's wedding.

8 pm boss thanked me for staying late and offered to buy me dinner.
Shift so far has been way less hectic than mornings. So much so that I start working on near zero priority tasks such as create training documents for processes.

Food arrives, I leave office to wash hands. Another department head exclaims, IT! Great! I thought you all left for the night, we've been down almost an hour and are losing money come quick. Preferring to instead remote in over dinner I asked for the device name (no ticket for this issue had been created btw). It's not the computer, but the printer they said. They tried everything (they said) but couldn't get rid of error message.

I'm lead to ops manager, the one who asked the other guy who got me. We get stopped four times by patrons along way and I hang while they're fixed.

Ops manager asks me for key to get into device. I don't have keys, don't have clearance for keys. I contact my boss who said the very dude I'm talking with is the one.

We talk with several heads who all point in different directions and ultimately learn it's manager b who unlocks the room and manager c who unlocks the device, all of which must be escorted by security. Four of us... All taken away from our busy duties. For paper. The printer was out of paper. Special paper that's locked elsewhere, but I held tight incase paper wasn't the issue (these printers suck, I've worked with several already and solution isn't always the same.)

This time it was just paper.

Rewashed hands, debriefed the VP I had to get involved to cut through earlier key noise, while he didn't know the answer he was able to get manager c involved which was an ordeal not mentioned.

He responded with, my shift ends in three minutes head out early before somebody else grabs me.

Midnight. Went from 8:30-9pm to midnight.. for nothing, nothing that needed me, truly.
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I don't like having to be that guy but at this point in my career I simply can't get dragged into projects that take 20+ hours and aren't even on the books. Someone makes "some small request" and your day is gone hunting down one issue that really isn't that important.

So I just say you need to make this a ticket and take it up with leadership if you need it prioritized. I have a full workload on my plate most times so I can't just go on a sidequest like that.
 
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TJT said:
I don't like having to be that guy but at this point in my career I simply can't get dragged into projects that take 20+ hours and aren't even on the books. Someone makes "some small request" and your day is gone hunting down one issue that really isn't that important.

So I just say you need to make this a ticket and take it up with leadership if you need it prioritized. I have a full workload on my plate most times so I can't just go on a sidequest like that.
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Boss agrees and ticket enforcement starts today. Also the door key person may now use their key on the machine, likewise for machine person. There are cameras everywhere.
 
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I'm 1 of 2 developers on my team. We've finished our feature and the product is going through several rounds of final testing. The company implemented a new QMS (quality management system) that has an enormous amount of red tape and hoops to jump through to get the product validated for release. Anywoo, I've literally done nothing, outside a bug fix that takes 2 minutes, for over a month. From what Ive heard most of the developers on other teams are experiencing the same. Feel sorry for the test group as they are constantly slammed.
 
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I watched bits and pieces, two big ones:

"Copilot Everywhere!" and combine/streamline data storage/processing/analytics into something called Fabric

Data Analytics | Microsoft Fabric

Get more value from your data with Microsoft Fabric—an AI-powered analytics platform that unites your data and services, including data science and data lakes.
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TJT

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I had it out with a project manager yesterday. Haven't had to do that in awhile. Dude gets a priority development request to me through the proper channels. So he had to convince his leadership and mine to prioritize this ask over everything else. I actually dropped everything and spent the past 7 working days on this to get it into a minimum viable product state.

Starting from absolutely nothing. From the onset the guy is like we absolutely need this by Friday (today 26MAY) I had it done yesterday and showed him. So okay it will ingest all of this stuff and then produce what you are looking for for the client in question. Dude immediately asks why it doesn't do a laundry list of bullshit that was not written down in the request. Hell it wasn't even mentioned at all in any way.

I just asked him straight, "Okay dude what does "done" mean to you? Because based on the request you rushed to me you absolutely needed this by tomorrow do produce what you're looking for. Which this will do. Now you're telling me its not good and not done because it doesn't do the 20 things you mentioned just now? I had a week to slap this together, be glad you got anything at all in such a short time." He just tells me well you need to have it ready (with all the other stuff) by Tuesday. I reminded him its a three day weekend and asked if he thought I was going to work the entire weekend just to do this. Dude told me I have to. So I asked if he was working the entire weekend, he said no he had plans so he couldn't.

God damn the fucking GALL of some people. That actually pissed me off.
 
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TJT said:
I had it out with a project manager yesterday. Haven't had to do that in awhile. Dude gets a priority development request to me through the proper channels. So he had to convince his leadership and mine to prioritize this ask over everything else. I actually dropped everything and spent the past 7 working days on this to get it into a minimum viable product state.

Starting from absolutely nothing. From the onset the guy is like we absolutely need this by Friday (today 26MAY) I had it done yesterday and showed him. So okay it will ingest all of this stuff and then produce what you are looking for for the client in question. Dude immediately asks why it doesn't do a laundry list of bullshit that was not written down in the request. Hell it wasn't even mentioned at all in any way.

I just asked him straight, "Okay dude what does "done" mean to you? Because based on the request you rushed to me you absolutely needed this by tomorrow do produce what you're looking for. Which this will do. Now you're telling me its not good and not done because it doesn't do the 20 things you mentioned just now? I had a week to slap this together, be glad you got anything at all in such a short time." He just tells me well you need to have it ready (with all the other stuff) by Tuesday. I reminded him its a three day weekend and asked if he thought I was going to work the entire weekend just to do this. Dude told me I have to. So I asked if he was working the entire weekend, he said no he had plans so he couldn't.

God damn the fucking GALL of some people. That actually pissed me off.
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Was there no formal list of requirements? Just all verbally relayed to you??
 
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I'm in a similar boat with regard to a slow down. We were elbows and assholes a few months ago trying to wrap up feature development, debug HW issues, and get the product into the field. Now he product team can't be bothered to put together a roadmap so not a lot of code being written.

I'm curious what everyone is seeing on remote work. I have been noticing more and more articles saying that remote work is on its way out, "the science is settled" and it isn't as efficient as being in office. I distinctly remember that there was a bunch of data during the plandemic that indicated people were happier and more productive remotely. Granted, there are lots of positions and products where it just doesn't work very well but I thought the consensus was that it was better for all sides.

I'm guessing the commercial real estate owners are tired of taking a beating?
 
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BrotherWu said:
I have been noticing more and more articles saying that remote work is on its way out, "the science is settled" and it isn't as efficient as being in office. I distinctly remember that there was a bunch of data during the plandemic that indicated people were happier and more productive remotely. Granted, there are lots of positions and products where it just doesn't work very well but I thought the consensus was that it was better for all sides.

I'm guessing the commercial real estate owners are tired of taking a beating?
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Yes, this. The entire business press is just one giant psyop. First it was "quiet quitting" as cover for layoffs, now it's anti-remote work stuff because consumption isn't high enough without people driving 2 hours a day to spend time in a building with germ-ridden idiots they hate, and spending 30 bucks on coffee and lunch.

The exception would be startups or really collaborative stuff, but if you spend all day just dealing with bullshit on a computer screen, why? My entire industry has been almost entire remote for 20 years for anything above the most entry-level positions, (or field installers, who used to make a shitton of money before everything went into the cloud) and helping other companies go mostly-remote for quite some time. It works fine for most types of work.
 
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1. Find out about a real thing
2. Make it sound 10x worse or more widespread
3. Attribute it to as many things as possible
4. Wait 3 - 9 months
5. Find your new thing
6. Transition to the new thing
 
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1. Find out about a real thing
2. Make it sound 10x worse or more widespread
3. Attribute it to as many things as possible
4. Wait 3 - 9 months
5. Find your new thing
6. Transition to the new thing
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Pretty sure quiet quitting was just made up the entire time, not real in the slightest.
 
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But that's not what quiet quitting was, it was "just doing your actual job."
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*shrug* I was never like that until the last couple years at my previous employer. In general, I'm a 'do you best for personal pride' kinda person.
 
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ToeMissile said:
*shrug* I was never like that until the last couple years at my previous employer. In general, I'm a 'do you best for personal pride' kinda person.
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Yea if you're like me maybe you had some vestigial foot in the boomer labor market because some of those people were still around in my early career. COVID disabused me of that notion and destroyed my remaining stockpile of fucks to give. The biggest issue was staffing, I'm just not doing it any more, if you want reliable services you can pay for them.

I cancelled a dozen projects after I was told I couldn't increase pay on positions and we saw zero useful applicants for 3 months. There was an avalanche of tears and threats. Fuck em. Not busting my ass to quadruple the complexity of an integration for systems with zero staff supporting them.

I had to cancel a vacation because we didn't have enough BAs for a critical project. I then get "asked" if I want to go to a conference around the same timeframe and you know fly SuperCoach and then fight to get the 17.95 for my Turkey sandwich at a 4 hour layover for 6 months. Fucccck you. Lmao.
 
TJT

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Pretty sure quiet quitting was just made up the entire time, not real in the slightest.
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Considering quiet quitting was literally "people actually clocking off at 5PM and living their life rather than working late into the night for no reason all the time."

Yes it was completely made up.
 
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Considering quiet quitting was literally "people actually clocking off at 5PM and living their life rather than working late into the night for no reason all the time."

Yes it was completely made up.
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It's baffling. I work on a team of architects. I log off at 5pm promptly. The 50 plus architects are all still working weekends and late nights etc.

I got promoted they didn't. Boomers are idiots
 
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