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Sorry about the double here, but I figured I should expand on this

I'm an operations supervisor. You could (and my resume did) say that I support warehouse function across inbound/outbound freight, picking, etc.

Well, it wasn't until I switched things up and said "okay, what is weak here to a hiring manager?" that it pointed out that phrase.

"Support is weak. Change to 'drives'"

Holy shit. That one word change completely transforms the way the resume looks. Of course I don't support warehouse function. I mean, I do - but it's so much more than that. I DRIVE the fucking ship.

It's that kind of shit. The simple, easy things that you could spend hours and hours on, or pay someone for every few years. You can literally just dictate to chatgpt "this is what my day is like in this role" and it builds bullet points for you. You build a Master resume, and then every job you apply for, tell to "optimize this to pass ATS scanners for this job" and paste the posting. It does all the tedious bullshit for you. I figure if recruiters are putting in zero effort and outsourcing the entire process to AI, then I should put in minimal effort and outsource the entire process to AI.

From there on out, it's just reps until you get lucky, which seems to be what you need these days. You need luck or a guy on the inside.
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My last post wasn't aimed at you or your points in particular, but rather makework in general. I agree that using AI to encrispen your resume is a good idea. Anything that stands out to AI/HR/etc is a good idea. There are lots of people out there who don't know how to use new tools and submit pretty potato-assed resumes.

Pal of mine was in HR and did HR consulting after that, and she said people misspelling their own names wasn't uncommon. It is almost as if these people don't want to work at all.

I agree with your final point. I was the catalyst in starting a company, and just about everyone I poached hired to form the core of the company were people I knew on a professional basis. From there it is luck, and polish increases your luck %.

In terms of inflating your own sails...is good. Make sure to suss out examples you can use in an interview. You can also use AI to refine and boil down/encrispen your responses.
 
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How exactly would this pal of yours know if someone misspelled their own name? Was she personally familiar with all these people?

Sounds more like she was a typical HR retard making shit up to validate her needless existence. HR consultant... fucking LOL.
 
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Khane said:
How exactly would this pal of yours know if someone misspelled their own name? Was she personally familiar with all these people?

Sounds more like she was a typical HR retard making shit up to validate her needless existence. HR consultant... fucking LOL.
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She was probably black too.
 
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I am beginning to sketch out my exit from the tech industry. As much as I love programming and problem solving I am nearing 20 years of it now. I just don't really think I want to do 20 more years of it. Be it as a management or some other tangental role. But I still love technology. Something that gets me out of the office/house more and is generally a technical job is what I am looking at. This wont be for 6-7 years as I complete some financial goals I have for my kids.

I will be in a strong situation with about $5M in investment assets between 401ks, personal accounts, real estate, and whatnot. So this job's income will be much less important. Its more about a lifestyle change I guess.

All that said I am currently looking at a BAS/systems type job as I will get to use my technical skills but on physical machinery like HVAC. I like the idea of working on something physical but also leveraging my decades of experience in programming and system design. I am in much more of a DGAF mode at my current job because coding these days feels like chopping wood to me. I don't really have any words to describe it. Not boring, but easy and not interesting.
 
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TJT said:
I am beginning to sketch out my exit from the tech industry. As much as I love programming and problem solving I am nearing 20 years of it now. I just don't really think I want to do 20 more years of it. Be it as a management or some other tangental role. But I still love technology. Something that gets me out of the office/house more and is generally a technical job is what I am looking at. This wont be for 6-7 years as I complete some financial goals I have for my kids.

I will be in a strong situation with about $5M in investment assets between 401ks, personal accounts, real estate, and whatnot. So this job's income will be much less important. Its more about a lifestyle change I guess.

All that said I am currently looking at a BAS/systems type job as I will get to use my technical skills but on physical machinery like HVAC. I like the idea of working on something physical but also leveraging my decades of experience in programming and system design. I am in much more of a DGAF mode at my current job because coding these days feels like chopping wood to me. I don't really have any words to describe it. Not boring, but easy and not interesting.
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It's such an enticing notion. I never really watched YouTube until I had so much free time on my hands and now I find myself watching a TON of DIY channels.

The biggest issue for me with a career change like this is... I'm 43 now and I don't think I want to START contorting my body in tight, uncomfortable spaces from time to time fixing/installing shit like ductwork.
 
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Khane said:
It's such an enticing notion. I never really watched YouTube until I had so much free time on my hands and now I find myself watching a TON of DIY channels.

The biggest issue for me with a career change like this is... I'm 43 now and I don't think I want to START contorting my body in tight, uncomfortable spaces from time to time fixing/installing shit like ductwork.
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Not sure what you are looking at but I don't see much of that kind of work in it. Access points for the control mechanisms aren't in impossible crawlspaces but external places like the roof. Side rooms that have no climate control and so on. I've been watching this guy's videos. A lot of it is very very familiar to a developer and from what I understand the growing IOT space gives you a lot of leverage. As the industry itself has far less of that expertise.



I am going to take a beginner HVAC course at the community college next year and just start out how I can be taken seriously looking for such a position. But at the moment this is the plan.
 
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Not sure what you are looking at but I don't see much of that kind of work in it. Access points for the control mechanisms aren't in impossible crawlspaces but external places like the roof. Side rooms that have no climate control and so on. I've been watching this guy's videos. A lot of it is very very familiar to a developer and from what I understand the growing IOT space gives you a lot of leverage. As the industry itself has far less of that expertise.



I am going to take a beginner HVAC course at the community college next year and just start out how I can be taken seriously looking for such a position. But at the moment this is the plan.
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There is typically A LOT of variance in how these things can/are installed depending on codes, the building itself, etc. It's one of those things where like 95% of the time its probably no trouble at all. But that 5%...

I might be overthinking it but that's my middle aged man brain at work.
 
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Khane said:
There is typically A LOT of variance in how these things can/are installed depending on codes, the building itself, etc. It's one of those things where like 95% of the time its probably no trouble at all. But that 5%...

I might be overthinking it but that's my middle aged man brain at work.
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I wouldn't overthink it. I don't intend to enter this space until I am like 45. But I am planning out how I do that. It will be nice to be out of the house and onsite around the area doing stuff. A great change from the WFH/office life I have known my entire working career. It's a long way off yes but I can make it happen. I think I will maintain good health and be capable. I am targeting $80k-$100k which is will be like $120k less than I make now which is wild to think about lol.
 
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It will be nice to be out of the house and onsite around the area doing stuff. A great change from the WFH/office life I have known my entire working career.
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This is the most enticing part of it. I can honestly say I'd do a job I found interesting and satisfying for like $60k/yr and not even blink despite it being a fairly low salary (at least where I currently live).
 
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