Jurassic Park 4

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Gavinmad_sl said:
Just noticed this when i was going back to find the name of the water dino. Aside from the brief mention by the geneticist and then Dr Malcolm questioning how they know it worked, they never actually went into the breeding dinosaurs plot in the movie did they? There wasn't nearly enough time.
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i read the book before i saw the movie, but i only read the book once and i saw the movie at least a dozen times. the frog DNA is a major plotpoint in the book and the movie. it tied in with the chaos theory about "life will find a way" dr grant discovers the dino eggs and recalls that frogs when faced with no males will grow male organs and reproduce.

 
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Except the mention in the movie is basically just a brief nod to the fact that it happened in the book, they never address it again. In the book it's a fairly major plot point because the Raptors are one of the breeding species, so after they regain control of the park but before they get airlifted out by the Costa Rican military, they investigate a populated Raptor nest to do a headcount. Another major plot point tied in to the breeding Raptors is that they are stowed away on the ship that left the Island before the big storm hit, so they were frantically trying to get the phone lines restored so they could contact that ship before it got back to the mainland.
 
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Parthenogenesis. An all female population will breed through, usually, cloning themselves by duplicating the X chromosome and then cloning themselves with all female offspring.
 
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Gavinmad_sl said:
Except the mention in the movie is basically just a brief nod to the fact that it happened in the book, they never address it again.
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It is re-addressed in the movie when they're going on adventures and running away from T-Rex. They jump over the tree root / limb thing and Sam Neil looks down and is all, "my god, they're breeding." Unless that's also what you meant, but there is at least two other references after the clip Chuck posted.
 
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Intrinsic_sl said:
It is re-addressed in the movie when they're going on adventures and running away from T-Rex. They jump over the tree root / limb thing and Sam Neil looks down and is all, "my god, they're breeding." Unless that's also what you meant, but there is at least two other references after the clip Chuck posted.
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That is the clip Chuk posted.
 
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Looks like a good

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netflix movie.
 
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If they're going to go full retard with it, they should have the hybrid be a mix of raptor and Muldoon and just make it as a cheap slasher flick The Return of Muldoon. As stupid as that sounds it would probably be as good as this will be.
 
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Merrith_sl said:
If they're going to go full retard with it, they should have the hybrid be a mix of raptor and Muldoon and just make it as a cheap slasher flick The Return of Muldoon. As stupid as that sounds it would probably be as good as this will be.
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I want to see the terrifying raptor-human hybrid. Or pterodactyl-human hybrid. Or both.
 
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CyrusReij_sl said:
The creature in the lagoon is indeed a Mosasaur (albeit stupid large) and not a dinosaur (marine reptiles and pterosaurs were not dinosaurs by definition). I thought it looked great up until RAPTOR ASSAULT COMBAT TEAM GO GO! I will see it anyhow as I am a huge paleontology nerd. Considering some of the original scripts had like laser beam military trained dinosaurs as the bad guy, I will take their snake/raptor/trex/cuttlefish hybrid that the design docs said they are going for. I just hope they don't try to do the same thing like they did with the Spinosaurus and have it fight and kill a Rex just to show how badass it is.

That fight was retarded, and if it happened like it did in the movie, the Rex won that fight in the first five seconds. T-Rex teeth are serrated and if it got its jaws around the relatively thin Spinosaurus neck, it wasn't coming back off without ripping out its throat at the least. Also, the entire strength of a Rex is its head musculature (obviously). The Rex would have crushed the backbone and/or windpipe of the Spinosaurus and that shit was done. Otoh, Spinosaurus teeth were not serrated to hold onto the T-Rex's neck, and it has no where near the strength in its jaws to snap the neck of such a heavily muscled creature like a T-Rex. Spinosaurus was not built to be an alpha predator in the sense it was depicted, it was an extremely large specialist dinosaur that while physically large than a Rex, was no where near as heavily built. /dinosaurnerdrantoff
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I actually like that fight, but I didn't see the motivation for the Rex to chase them. But you're right it doesn't make sense because the Spinosaur's eating apparatus is adapted for catching marine organisms. Like these two, one specializes in fishing and the other's short and robust snout in out- muscling large prey.

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Maester Chuk_sl said:
you guys forget the hybrid dinosaurs was already done in the first movie. they mixed frog DNA with the extracted dino DNA causing them all to be born female.
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Yeah, I just got done ranting about this. The ENTIRE premise of JP is hybridization. Now we have Star Lord playing some trope rugged man bound by nature criticizing the woman mad scientist for doing something *gasp* aswrongas mixing genes! Bitch, that moral bridge was crossed in the first move. They are recycling the JP1 plot line, because whoever wrote the script is absent of any creativity. This time the moral dilemma feels forced, and the lack of creativity leads to relying on gimmicks. I think the trained raptors bit is really interesting and find it plausible, but I don't trust anyone in Hollywood right now to have the ability or talent to pull it off. But the potential for awesome raptor action is high.

Didn't they have trained dolphins in one of the Jaws movies? How did that work out?
 
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Trained Dolphins helped people escape jaws 3d.

Bad movie, but that was actually something I found interesting as a kid.

If the story goes that after the shit show of the first one, instead of going for natural dinosaurs they try to domesticate them in a sense like zoo animals and that would make sense. Much like killer whales and lions don't eat their trainers.

Secret hybrid Dino not being raised that way and going rogue would make sense.
 
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First half of the trailer I was like "awesome" then I watched the rest. Unfortunate. Why is it so hard for them to just say "Yeah, twenty years later some company took it over, bred some new dinos, and now it's opening" without inserting all this hybrid genetic modification trained raptor attack squad bullshit. When the hybrid Kangaroo-TRex shows up I'm going to dislocate a retina due to my eyes rolling so hard involuntarily.
 
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this is what happens when a story is born in the board room and not from an artist. I can hear the "yes, but lets take this story to the next level!" lines in my head.
 
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what the fuk?

we know from SeaWorld's own director of safety (as well as videos on the web)" that SeaWorld obtains sperm from Tilikum by having a person "get into the pool and masturbate him with a cow's vagina filled with hot water
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Tilikum is also the whale that's killed around 3 people so far. 1 being a guy that was trying to fuck its blowhole. Squeezed down and swam under water for 10ish minutes.
Another was an instructor that was killed in front of everyone when her head was bitten.

Doug Stanhope had a great bit on that Sea World encounter.
Jump to around 7 minutes for the whale bit.
 
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