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I just came here to post this! Pretty accurate portrayal.
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Khane
Got something right about marriage
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There are alternatives for passive points and idol slots now. Dungeon bosses grant these in 1.2 as well. You do need to get to act 5 at least though so you can skip to the faction unlocks in act 9 by completing temporal Sanctum.
Captain Suave
Caesar si viveret, ad remum dareris.
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Vorph
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You also actually need to have a sanctum key, which took me until L71 on my first character. Really fucking sucks because it's still far easier and faster to get all the idols and passives following the same old leveling routine to act 7, but you're completely fucked if you wait that long for access to CoF/MG to start gaining favor.
Favor.is based on experience gain. You gain far more experience faster when you are lvl.50+, than you will going from Act 1 to 7.
Things may have changed, but you used to be able to choose CoF or MG on your alt within 30 mins of the campaign starting.
I'm not sure what more people want these days.
I guess we need to log into the game on a lvl 1 toom and be in the end game 10 mins after we get out of the char select screen?
Chimney
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So I'm getting close to L100 and going to actually do most of the content for once. Is the end game gearing basically find whatever uniques with LP or toss them in the egg and then imprint them with exalted items to upgrade and the other slots exalted gear?
Vorph
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I know how favor works, and I'm not sure what the rest of that response has to do with the problem I had.
I've played a bunch of characters using the campaign skip and I have never not had a sanctum key by the time I hit 55. On really powerful leveling builds (Falconer, etc.) I've done Julra as early as the low 40's. Getting to 71 without faction access is either the most insanely bad luck ever, or something drastically changed since the last time I played LE.
Edit: The online alt I made just hit 58 and hasn't seen a key yet either.
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Then something changed, because you used to be able to join a faction on an alt before you hit lvl 6 to 10 by talking to an npc in one of the first areas.
No key was needed.
Vorph
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Why do you keep talking about alt access to factions when I'm talking about the first time through? I specifically said that my first character (which was offline) didn't get a key until 71, and then I made an online alt and I'm having the same problem again (currently mid-60's and still nothing).
This wasn't really meant to be some deep discussion, I was simply pointing out that the campaign skip isn't really a shortcut if you can't get a sanctum key to go with it. That's it.
This wasn't really meant to be some deep discussion, I was simply pointing out that the campaign skip isn't really a shortcut if you can't get a sanctum key to go with it. That's it.
Because I was assuming you were asking because you already had a lvl 71 and complaining about not getting a key to get to a faction earlier on a 2nd char.
Campaign skip is not meant for a first time play through. It's there as a mechanic to speed up your alt chars.
Campaign skip is not meant for a first time play through. It's there as a mechanic to speed up your alt chars.
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Most speedrunners still do it. The amount of favor you lose isn't that much compared to the early progression you can get which then means faster favor gains anyway so you catch up, and especially for merchant it puts you ahead of the pack to make more money early.
But yeah you're not really guaranteed a key for a while. I think I got mine off Lagon or so? Mono lagon that is, that's like 3rd mono so was around 70 too I think, not sure about the numbers. But like the amount of favor you'd gain from finishing the campaign normally then doing these 3 mono maps worth of xp is basically nothing anyway compared to empowered mono xp so it really doesn't matter. And being able to skip chapter 8 is nice, hate that fucking place.
Havent been playing too hard but lvl 85 and haven't had one disconnect so far.
Quick question for COF folks, what loot tables do the unique rewards roll from when you do prophecies? Example if i do a unique 2H axe prophecy can I get a world splitter as a reward? Or is it only gear that doesn't get dropped by a specific boss? Or is it like the rune of ascendance loot table?
Quick question for COF folks, what loot tables do the unique rewards roll from when you do prophecies? Example if i do a unique 2H axe prophecy can I get a world splitter as a reward? Or is it only gear that doesn't get dropped by a specific boss? Or is it like the rune of ascendance loot table?
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The ethernet card on my brand new high end gaming rig is slowly dying; those Chinese fuckers at Lenovo screwed me. But, since I don't want to trade in this game anyway:
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I agree with Mathil's most recent video. I got to thinking how do you solve some of the problems like knowing what to loot filter before knowing what loot you want. And I realized players put up with a lot of similar clunk in PoE. Why?
I think the ceiling of endgame progression is far more alluring in PoE than it is in LE. Does the concept of chain explosions even exist in LE? Always-on flasks via Mageblood or Pathfinder? Extra proj? Chaining/forking/splitting/returning proj? To be fair, these things aren't known to newish PoE players either.
I got my Ignite Frost Claw Sorc through the campaign and didn't feel like continuing. He might get a bit faster via better boots, but the core of the build was pretty much set.
I think the ceiling of endgame progression is far more alluring in PoE than it is in LE. Does the concept of chain explosions even exist in LE? Always-on flasks via Mageblood or Pathfinder? Extra proj? Chaining/forking/splitting/returning proj? To be fair, these things aren't known to newish PoE players either.
I got my Ignite Frost Claw Sorc through the campaign and didn't feel like continuing. He might get a bit faster via better boots, but the core of the build was pretty much set.
Khane
Got something right about marriage
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LE will never EVER have the end game potential of PoE because of the design philosophy. Almost everything in LE is siloed based on class. All the way down to armor types like helms and chests being class specific. Very little gear has any potential whatsoever to be used in niche or interesting ways. Becaue of this the "chase" and also experimentation is much less enticing.
It's probably the wisest design choice for them as a small development team, way easier to balance. But LE is never going to be a "this league was so fun I played for the whole 3 months!" kind of game.
It's a very different itch that LE scratches.
It's probably the wisest design choice for them as a small development team, way easier to balance. But LE is never going to be a "this league was so fun I played for the whole 3 months!" kind of game.
It's a very different itch that LE scratches.
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Khane
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Simple but satisfying progression where you can actually make your own build or setup without bricking your whole experience that has good, short term charm.
I think most people can get a good 2 weeks out of LE and feel satisfied with it. I think most people would expect only getting 2 weeks out PoE (1 or 2) means they didn't really enjoy whatever the current league is.
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Penance
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I think you're downplaying the top end progression just because classes have certain bases locked. I agree that it completely shifts balance decisions and design philosophy, however the game has tons of layers of stat progression, not to mention the chase of slamming the perfect lp3 is similar to poes perfect rare scenario but with uniques. Same with weaver items.
Now that's not to say that it comes close to poes top end progression as it's still not built out to those levels, but it's got potential.
I also think this game does a better job of allowing people to scale defensive stats compared to poe.
Now that's not to say that it comes close to poes top end progression as it's still not built out to those levels, but it's got potential.
I also think this game does a better job of allowing people to scale defensive stats compared to poe.
Khane
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I think it has meaningful layers of stat progression and knowing which slots get better versions (or hybrid versions of 2 stats other slots don't get) and min/maxing that is interesting. Knowing which slots have high value t1 affixes for sealing and such, etc. For instance knowing what Blind does in Last Epoch and sealing T1 blind on a weapon to get effective crit immunity until you can get fully reliable crit reduction or avoidance to 100%.
But that itemization itself will never be as interesting as PoE if they continue to class lock most everything, because there isn't anything that allows you to be as creative as you can be in PoE. 4 Affix slots also makes it much easier to decide how to stat but does remove a bit of potentially interesting combinations.
Which is fine. It's just different.
But that itemization itself will never be as interesting as PoE if they continue to class lock most everything, because there isn't anything that allows you to be as creative as you can be in PoE. 4 Affix slots also makes it much easier to decide how to stat but does remove a bit of potentially interesting combinations.
Which is fine. It's just different.
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