Mikhail and Hodj's Political Thread

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I'll always think of Kentucky as the South regardless of its role in the Civil War simply because of the caliber of redneck that populates that area.

I spent a few days in a SE Kentucky Jail a long time ago and thats an experience I'll never forget, y'all.
Kentucky's population is reflective of the states its closest to. So if you're in the Bluegrass/Louisville/Cincinatti area (where most of us live let's just be honest) its more like Indiana and Ohio. If you're in Flatwoods, where my grandparents on my mother's side were from, then its more like West Virginia. If you're in southern Kentucky down closer to Cumberland and the like, its more like Tennessee.

That's where the misperception comes from.

Kentucky could almost be split right across the middle into two states and no one would notice but some government bureaucrats.
 

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I'd like to point out that Mik us guilty of what he is claiming hodj is guilty of. He has repeatedly called Araysar a troll when it is clear he has never trolled.
 

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You guys are more like Indiana.
Take your average Indianian (lol not a word don't care) and then infuse that person with a ridiculously inflated sense of the importance of his local college basketball team, bam. You have your average Kentuckian.
 

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We did have a history of blue bloods but like any recessive disorder, it doesn't necessarily mean you're inbreeding if you happen to have it.

Blue-Skinned People of Kentucky Reveal Today's Genetic Lesson - ABC News

But yeah, its way more likely that both parents carry a recessive allele in a small population with lots of inbreeding. That's why the Amish and the Mennonites and Hutterites and Ashkenazi Jews and several other isolated or once isolated populations carry higher instances of recessive genetict defects.

That's a crazy genetic disorder, too, the blue blood disorder. Basically due to a genetic defect you have a ridiculously high quantity of faulty hemoglobin in your blood that cannot bind oxygen properly, so your skin, lips etc are deprived of oxygen and look blue, and the blood runs thick and viscous and very dark.
 

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We did have a history of blue bloods but like any recessive disorder, it doesn't necessarily mean you're inbreeding if you happen to have it.

Blue-Skinned People of Kentucky Reveal Today's Genetic Lesson - ABC News

But yeah, its way more likely that both parents carry a recessive allele in a small population with lots of inbreeding. That's why the Amish and the Mennonites and Hutterites and Ashkenazi Jews and several other isolated or once isolated populations carry higher instances of recessive genetict defects.

That's a crazy genetic disorder, too, the blue blood disorder. Basically due to a genetic defect you have a ridiculously high quantity of faulty hemoglobin in your blood that cannot bind oxygen properly, so your skin, lips etc are deprived of oxygen and look blue, and the blood runs thick and viscous and very dark.
Sounds like those people are heathen democrats in the god given state of Kentucky
 

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Hodj how many people do you know that have lynched someone? I assume that still happens in the deep south.
Notable Kentucky African Americans -

Lockett Lynch Mob (Lexington, KY)
Start Year : 1920
The first resistance to a lynch mob by local officials and troops in the South took place in Lexington, KY.In 1920, 10-year old Geneva Hardman, a little white girl, was killed. Will Lockett, an African American World War I veteran, was the suspect. While he was in police custody and without council, Lockett confessed to the murder and other crimes. His trial was set in Lexington for February 9, which was also Court Day, when a large number of people would be in the city. Governor Morrow ordered out all law enforcement officers and state troopers. Several hundred people showed up for the trial. Lockett was sentenced to die in the electric chair. The crowd outside got rowdy, and there was an exchange of gunfire between the crowd and the troopers. Six people were killed and 50 injured. U.S. troops were sent to Lexington. A second surge was building and Brigadier General Francis C. Marshall declared martial law, which remained in force for two weeks. Four hundred troops escorted Lockett to Eddyville Penitentiary, and state guards were detached to nearby Leitchfield, KY, to guard against violence. Lockett died in the electric chair on March 11.Kentucky later became the first state to pass an anti-lynching law.For more see J. D. Wright, Jr., "Lexington's Suppression of the 1920 Will Lockett Lynch Mob," Register of the Kentucky Historical Society, 1986, vol. 84, issue 3, pp. 163-279.
Goddamn it feels good to be from Kentucky.

We are like the kings of anti racism bro.
 

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Texas has an openly gay mayor(Houston) and one of the most liberal cities in America (Austin), still a part of the South. Your argument is invalid.
Texas actually fought for the South in the War.

Kentucky fought for the North.

Your argument is invalid.
 

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Texas actually fought for the South in the War.

Kentucky fought for the North.

Your argument is invalid.
Republicans freed the slaves after the War and the Democrats were the party of Southern, white, conservatives. Now those roles have reversed. Just like Kentucky starting off in the North and ending up clearly aligned with the rest of the 'true' south. A lot can change in 150 years.

Funny, but I've seen you argue against the garglechimps using this very same logic when they throw out the tired 'Lincoln was a Republican'.
 

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Republicans freed the slaves after the War and the Democrats were the party of Southern, white, conservatives. Now those roles have reversed. Just like Kentucky starting off in the North and ending up clearly aligned with the rest of the 'true' south. A lot can change in 150 years.

Funny, but I've seen you argue against the garglechimps using this very same logic when they throw out the tired 'Lincoln was a Republican'.
Pretty much this.

I definitely didnt get a "North" vibe when I spent a week there.
 

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Republicans freed the slaves after the War and the Democrats were the party of Southern, white, conservatives. Now those roles have reversed. Just like Kentucky starting off in the North and ending up clearly aligned with the rest of the 'true' south. A lot can change in 150 years.

Funny, but I've seen you argue against the garglechimps using this very same logic when they throw out the tired 'Lincoln was a Republican'.
I don't think I've ever argued with the garglechimps about Lincoln bro.

I'm sure SOMEONE has made that argument and I wouldn't necessarily disagree with it (that the parties roles reversed to some extent and that Lincoln's Republicanism isn't the same as modern day Republicanism or whatever) but it wasn't me.

And no magic role reversal happened. Kentucky has always been a border state, so it leads to confusion, are they North, are they South. Most people are under the false impression that we seceded and fought with the South, and they call us part of the South and proclaim we're racists and all this.

Its not true, and it never was.
 

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No, I've spent time in Indianapolis, Cleveland and Toledo. Those are Midwestern states.

kentucky is not like that. There is definitely a more trailer-y and inbred-y vibe from ole' KY.
 

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Since Oklahoma wasn't even a state during the Civil War does that mean they can't be part of the South either?
 
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