Mikhail and Hodj's Political Thread

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hodj

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It's catchy!




Verse One:
?In the year of sixty one we left our native land ?for we could not bend our spirits to a tyrants stern command ?And we rallied to our Buckner while our hearts were sad and sore ?To offer our blood for freedom as our fathers did before

Chorus:
And we'll march march march to the music of the drum
we were driven forth in exile from our old kentucky home.

Verse two:
When first the Southern flag whirled its folds upon the air,
Its stars had hardly gathered till Kentucky's sons were there,
And they swore a solemn oath as they sternly gathered round
They would only live as freeman in the dark and bloody ground.

Chorus:
And we'll march march march to the music of the drum
we were driven forth in exile from our old kentucky home.

Verse three:
With Buckner as our leader and Morgan in the Van,
We Will plant the flag of freedom in our fair and happy land
We will drive the tyrants minions to the Ohio's rolling flood,
And will dye her waves in crimson with coward Yankee blood.

Chorus:
And we'll march march march to the music of the drum
we were driven forth in exile from our old kentucky home.

Verse four:
Then cheer ye Southern braves, ye soon shall see the day,
When Kentucky's fairest daughters will cheer you on your way,
And then her proud old mothers will welcome one and all
For "United we must stand, but divided we must fall".
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Protip: They were called the Orphans because we kicked their asses out and joined the Union, so they had no home to return to.
 

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Like I said a million times, those aren't results of anything except using propaganda to one's advantage: his theories were notapplied, only used, for whatever purpose it may be.

Let me be more explicit:

There is no communism without emancipation of man's labor and the free association of each individual with regards to that labor.
This is a very convenient statement for you, since it means your theory of communism being awesome is completely unfalsifiable. Any failure, no matter how great or with what effort, won't disprove your theory.

What a joke.
 

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I've already cited proof that this is a total fabrication on your part multiple multlples of times.

Its pure historical revisionism to say that Mao was not attempting to make China achieve a Marxist vision of Communist Utopia.

You're willfully and maliciously lying at this point.
I stated it clearly earlier: I never tried to guess his intention - perhaps he genuinely was trying. It doesn't matter, but this is quite obviously untrue because the foundational aspects required in communism were ignored to keep the people in a state of forced exploitation and fear. As I said, labor is the key point here, and the first, most obvious failure is the forced labor seen in Mao's policies.
 

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What are you even posting now dude? That someone asked Kentucky to make the confederate flag plates and was rejected?

That plate was never accepted by the state and a couple of dipshits signing a petition does not a entire state's agenda make.

This is an absurdist argument you're making now.

Also that article is like two plus years old. Sorry bro. This is Kentucky's license plate

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This is a very convenient statement for you, since it means your theory of communism being awesome is completely unfalsifiable. Any failure, no matter how great or with what effort, won't disprove your theory.

What a joke.
Exactly. They're trying to make their theory unfalsifiable because they need to protect it from all the evil capitalists.
 

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Oh and Araysar, the Sons of Confederate Veterans that lobbied for that license plate to be made in Kentucky...

They're based in Tennessee.

http://www.whas11.com/news/Proposed-...121819694.html

Sons of Confederate Veterans, based in Tennessee, has yet to file an application for the plates and according to state law, the message of the sponsoring group can't be construed as an attempt to victimize or intimidate any person due to the persons race.
 

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This is a very convenient statement for you, since it means your theory of communism being awesome is completely unfalsifiable. Any failure, no matter how great or with what effort, won't disprove your theory.

What a joke.
It's not convenient or a joke, it's foundational. Communism is all centered around man's labor, that was the whole point of protest. All Marxian scholarship outside of dialectics is focused on essentially this.
 

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Also I can't find ANY stories about this license plate past May 15th of 2011, so I'm just gonna say that since the above article says that at that point, the SCV hadn't even filed for the application yet, that they decided to drop the idea until I see otherwise.

I don't think the thing ever even made it past the initial news reports you're citing. I'd never heard of it before.
 

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It's not convenient or a joke, it's foundational.
Dumar saying that rejecting falsifiability and evidence is foundational to Marxist doctrine.

Yeah, we know bro. That's the point.

Thats why what you're practicing ain't science.
 

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UNC Press - Creating a Confederate Kentucky

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Creating a Confederate Kentucky
The Lost Cause and Civil War Memory in a Border State

By Anne E. Marshall
In Creating a Confederate Kentucky, Anne E. Marshall traces the development of a Confederate identity in Kentucky between 1865 and 1925, belying the fact that Kentucky never left the Union. After the Civil War, the people of Kentucky appeared to forget their Union loyalties and embraced the Democratic politics, racial violence, and Jim Crow laws associated with former Confederate states. Marshall looks beyond postwar political and economic factors to the longer-term commemorations of the Civil War by which Kentuckians fixed the state's remembrance of the conflict for the following sixty years.
 

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UNC Press - Creating a Confederate Kentucky

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Creating a Confederate Kentucky
The Lost Cause and Civil War Memory in a Border State

By Anne E. Marshall
In Creating a Confederate Kentucky, Anne E. Marshall traces the development of a Confederate identity in Kentucky between 1865 and 1925, belying the fact that Kentucky never left the Union. After the Civil War, the people of Kentucky appeared to forget their Union loyalties and embraced the Democratic politics, racial violence, and Jim Crow laws associated with former Confederate states. Marshall looks beyond postwar political and economic factors to the longer-term commemorations of the Civil War by which Kentuckians fixed the state's remembrance of the conflict for the following sixty years.
Interesting.

It was 1920 or so when Kentucky was the first state to ban lynching.

Sorta blows that whole "The state was becoming more racist between 1865 and 1925" thing right out of the water.

Not that 1925 wasn't almost 100 years ago now, anyway.
 

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Look at Dumar and Mikhail still trying their best to pretend that if someone actually founds an entire nation on Marxist principles, they aren't a marxist because Dumar and Mikhail say so.

Mao would disagree, and since its Mao we're talking about, his opinion is a little more important than either of yours.
 

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I mean if Mao wasn't a Marxist, why is he so prominently featured on Marxist.org?

Reference Archive: Mao Zedong

The...international internet archive for all Marxist related documents and speeches.

Let's just put it bluntly. Communists have an implicit personal interest in promoting their agenda, and to do that more effectively, they must white wash the history of terror that follows in their wake.

So they lie through their teeth and deny deny deny.
 

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Look at Dumar and Mikhail still trying their best to pretend that if someone actually founds an entire nation on Marxist principles, they aren't a marxist because Dumar and Mikhail say so.

Mao would disagree, and since its Mao we're talking about, his opinion is a little more important than either of yours.
And yetagain, the basic 'Marxist principle' was wholly ignored in Maoist policy. Keep swimming in that ocean of subjectivity and accusations though, it's a much easier worldview.
 

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Notable Kentucky African Americans -

Lockett Lynch Mob (Lexington, KY)
Start Year : 1920
The first resistance to a lynch mob by local officials and troops in the South took place in Lexington, KY. In 1920, 10-year old Geneva Hardman, a little white girl, was killed. Will Lockett, an African American World War I veteran, was the suspect. While he was in police custody and without council, Lockett confessed to the murder and other crimes. His trial was set in Lexington for February 9, which was also Court Day, when a large number of people would be in the city. Governor Morrow ordered out all law enforcement officers and state troopers. Several hundred people showed up for the trial. Lockett was sentenced to die in the electric chair. The crowd outside got rowdy, and there was an exchange of gunfire between the crowd and the troopers. Six people were killed and 50 injured. U.S. troops were sent to Lexington. A second surge was building and Brigadier General Francis C. Marshall declared martial law, which remained in force for two weeks. Four hundred troops escorted Lockett to Eddyville Penitentiary, and state guards were detached to nearby Leitchfield, KY, to guard against violence. Lockett died in the electric chair on March 11.Kentucky later became the first state to pass an anti-lynching law.For more see J. D. Wright, Jr., "Lexington's Suppression of the 1920 Will Lockett Lynch Mob," Register of the Kentucky Historical Society, 1986, vol. 84, issue 3, pp. 163-279.
Subjects: Lynchings, Military & Veterans, Court Cases
Geographic Region: Leitchfield, Grayson County, Kentucky / Lexington, Fayette County, Kentucky
 
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