Mikhail and Hodj's Political Thread

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Araysar_sl said:
"This highly regarded and universally praisedbook by a professor of history from NC State about Kentucky does not fit my world view and hence I'm just going to ignore it"
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Appeal to authority fallacy.

Also appeal to popularity.

Also its not even that popular, and who cares if it was highly praised? You know what other books were highly praised?

A Million Little Pieces - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Fifty Shades of Grey - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Etc and so forth and so on.
 
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Yeah, books mean nothing at all. Especially books by scholars and specialists in their field.
 
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Araysar_sl said:
Yeah, books mean nothing at all. Especially books by scholars and specialists in their field.
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Gonna need some citation on her specialization and why she's the top scholar in her field that I should be paying attention to.
 
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UNC Press - Creating a Confederate Kentucky

Anne E. Marshall is associate professor of history at Mississippi State University.
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>top scholar in her field
>associate professor without tenure

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Gonna need some citation on her specialization and why she's the top scholar in her field that I should be paying attention to.
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Education:

Ph.D., History, University of Georgia, 2004
M.A., History, University of Georgia, 2000
B.A., History, Centre College of Kentucky, 1998


Also, her book is highly regarded and highly rated. I mean unless everyone who read it is a liar.
 
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So Hodj, your expertise outweighs her expertise?

Do... you... have a Ph.D. in History?

Or even a Ph.D. in anything?
 
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Education:

Ph.D., History, University of Georgia, 2004
M.A., History, University of Georgia, 2000
B.A., History, Centre College of Kentucky, 1998


Also, her book is highly regarded and highly rated. I mean unless everyone who read it is a liar.
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Yeah I'm not seeing any reason why her opinion should be particularly held in high regard.

There's lots of phDs in history out there. Its pretty clear she has a narrative framework from which she was operating.

She wrote a book. She said she felt that Kentucky got more racist after the Civil War. Great. That's wonderful for her.

Why shouldIcare?

Why doesher opinionmatter?

More importantly, why doesher opinionget to define the inner workings of 4 million people's minds?
 
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So Hodj, your expertise outweighs her expertise?

Do... you... have a Ph.D. in History?

Or even a Ph.D. in anything?
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I'm sorry I wasn't aware getting a phD in history meant that you became Moses walking down from Mount Sinai with the Ten Commandments of Racism in Post Civil War Kentucky that gets to define an entire state as racist simply because you say so.

My apologies.
 
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Really, looking at her CV on this website, looks like she has a fixation and predisposition that taints her opinions.

Anne E. Marshall - Department of History - Mississippi State University

The problem with getting a phD in history is that basically, you got a phD in having an opinion on things other people wrote down. Its really not the impressive.

Maybe if she had to pass a calculus class or two I'd have a bit more respect for her opinion.

Seems like almost everything she writes is about how racist Kentucky is. I mean I guess you could pick a more biased source, like Dumar or Mikhail.
 
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Quoting Marx when discussing Marxian philosophy as opposed to Mao and his policies is very biased, yessir. I've been found out.
 
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Araysar_sl said:
It certainly makes her opinion more credible than yours
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I really don't agree.

Where was she born? How long did she live here? How many people does she interact with?

All she has done is go back and cherry pick the details of Kentucky's history that she wants to emphasize to prove her point of view. That's pretty much why they don't call history majors scientists.

History is about who is writing it, and who is reading it, more than anything else.
 
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Quoting Marx when discussing Marxian philosophy as opposed to Mao and his policies is very biased, yessir. I've been found out.
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Settle down pizza face, we're talking about more important things now than you.
 
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I don't understand why you look down so much on humanities. Its a very close minded view
 
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One of my majors is in the humanities, I don't look down on it.

I'm stating a simple fact. History majors aren't looking to refute their beliefs. They're looking to verify them. It is impossible to read history without interpreting through your own personal lens. One of the few mildly productive things I did in my twenties was read a stupid lot of history books. I love history and I don't look down on it.

But to say a history professor doesn't go into writing a book with a thesis statement that they intend to prove is just silly. Its how you write a book.

And I'm sure its a perfectly fine book.

But am I going to let a single book by someone I've never met define me, and 3.5, 4 million other people I live around?

Of course not. That's silly.

I'm certain Kentucky has had its problems with racism. There isn't a single state in this country that hasn't. That doesn't make us uniquely or even particularly racist, and it certainly isn't enough to justify lumping us with the South despite all factual historical evidence to the contrary.
 
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