Monsters and Memories (Project_N) - Old School Indie MMO

fanaskin said:

There's things in here to read? it's just pissing and moaning when I don't post

Also to cotinue with evidence



this is funny because all of the icons were copy/paste eq icons before the reworks

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I still believe Nick's firing had more to do with not getting enough work done, rather than over "copying EQ".

Love the guy, but at the pace Nick was working it was clear to everyone that EA was several years away rather than what might be a year or two.

"Put some guys working with Nick to finish the classes" isn't a valid suggestion when he was more focused on finishing draft beers. I believe copying EQ was a secondary reason, and likely something that had been brought up during meetings. But ultimately "copying EQ" doesn't matter because work on the classes had completely stalled out for 2 months (some people from early alpha would say things were stalled for 2 years). They had plenty of grounds to let Nick go from class design outside of "he's copying EQ".

Lol he still lives. React spotted!

FWIW it always seems like he had a bunch of ideas but was pretty much either hamstrung with tech and art not existing and having to piece together unique playstyles from a super limited pallete of existing spells and what little could be strung together with database shenanigans. Not to mention whatever pushback was going on from the back office committees. EG the pretty extreme initial racial stats from him and then getting what we ended up with.

Still miss his M&M streams tho.

fanaskin said:

INQ and SHAM will be updated tuesday via MnM discord

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Nice can decide if i'm playing Shaman or not then peace out to EA

Where is Rothold and what level range? Is it a mini dungeon or more like bt bay?

Pasteton said:

Where is Rothold and what level range? Is it a mini dungeon or more like bt bay?

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Not sure how to compare it, but it's bigger than anything I've seen so far judging by what Shawn showed on stream. It's somewhere in the deep, but since the connecting zones won't be in yet, there will be an npc that teleports you there for the time being. The level range is 30-45 or so.

Del said:

The level range is 30-45 or so.

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So… it’ll be camped to hell by solo level 60s when it drops?

Kithani said:

So… it’ll be camped to hell by solo level 60s when it drops?

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No, they'll be in Wyrmsbane fucking with your groups.

Just to put this narrative to bed about them being worried about getting sued, this is what Shawn had to say about class changes.

Nah, it had nothing to do with discussions related to IP or anything of a similar legal vein. The class changes have been based on:

• our desire to see greater differentiation between classes/more class identity
• feedback from the team that wasn't initially incorporated
• discussions within the systems team related to longer-term progression and sustainability
• a lack of completeness for various classes prior to these efforts
• a fair amount of feedback from people who weren't happy with the previous version of the classes

Some people weren't happy with classes previously. Some people aren't happy with the classes now. Some people won't be happy with the classes in the future.

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i'm eager to see the new inquisitor. hopefully they read over various suggestions and feedback and then picked the way they want to go, and do it well.

Del said:

Just to put this narrative to bed about them being worried about getting sued, this is what Shawn had to say about class changes.

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As I said, cope for the “omg daybreak!!!”

Glad to hear they put SK revamp from one of the first revealed to last to “happen” because its super fake and gay.

Piddleing with a pally… inquisitor or spellblade may be interesting. Pally is… well a pally.