Monsters and Memories (Project_N) - Old School Indie MMO

Araxen

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Gravel said:
Mobs leashing seems like a massive change. Basically flying in the face of the "super punishing old school mechanics" so many of the diehards seem to want.
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You could zone pull/split any camp with no leashing. I can see why they would do it. It does say it's a pretty large radius. I haven't logged into the game to test it yet. It may not be that big of a deal.
 
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Sounds like it was more to deal with evac shenangins than what we would normally call leashing. Like it has to be far enough away from you to that it wouldn’t load in your client normally. Remains to be seen exactly how it works.
 
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Gravel said:
Mobs leashing seems like a massive change. Basically flying in the face of the "super punishing old school mechanics" so many of the diehards seem to want.
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I think this was mostly in response to some exploits around charm, I doubt it's going to work like it does in WoW or any other game with tight leashes. In fact I haven't even noticed it in the bit I played today. Zones are WAY bigger than EQ so soft leashing makes sense
 
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Tol

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Gravel said:
It's both an age of the player phenomenon, as well as the time period the game came out. You'll never recapture 1999 era internet where everyone wasn't so connected like they are now.

Several people have mentioned it over the years in this thread, but you're talking peak instant messaging era (ICQ, AIM, etc) and EQ was basically a social media platform wrapped in the package of an RPG. The whole idea of sitting around a camp waiting for respawns works when you'd be sitting there waiting for your friends to message you anyway. In 2026, that's just not a thing that a game can replicate.
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The only thing thats come close to the wonder for me is the stuff thats happening now in VR worlds like VRchat. There's a mountain of potential there, but the problem is theres not really an audience for it since VR lends itself more to shorter sessions and single scenes.

I don't have any hope for a proper VR MMO, but thats the only thing that would recapture the sense of wonder for me. some of the worlds in VRC come close, but there arent the in depth mechanics or large populated world and I doubt we'll ever see it. If they did it right though it would be a home run.
 
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Tol said:
The only thing thats come close to the wonder for me is the stuff thats happening now in VR worlds like VRchat. There's a mountain of potential there, but the problem is theres not really an audience for it since VR lends itself more to shorter sessions and single scenes.

I don't have any hope for a proper VR MMO, but thats the only thing that would recapture the sense of wonder for me. some of the worlds in VRC come close, but there arent the in depth mechanics or large populated world and I doubt we'll ever see it. If they did it right though it would be a home run.
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I have a list of tenets and ideas for a game like that. I have no background in game design but have worked on raid design (I use the term loosely because it was done with our guild who had SoE employees in it)

Might happen during the next wave in a few years
 
Grim1

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vegetoeeVegetoee said:
I agree mostly. I don't many of you realize that 1999 was not a glorified chat sim. I didn't play EQ to chat like a highschool teen. I played it along with thousands of us, to explore a world AND socialize.
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And there was nothing else like it at the time. Captive audience. Now there are tons of mmos to choose from.

The only real question is if there are enough players in 2026 who want that throwback EQ game and are willing to support it.
 
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Araxen said:
You could zone pull/split any camp with no leashing. I can see why they would do it. It does say it's a pretty large radius. I haven't logged into the game to test it yet. It may not be that big of a deal.
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Needs more testing but the radius seems different based on named vs normal mob. The distance on normal was from the bats in glass flats to the undead tower before they leashed.
 
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