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Arative

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I mean, the reasoning is sound, but still - oof. That's like 'I keep my wineglasses in a duffel bag because if they break I can just buy more'.

Why striped ? Surely you aren't concerned about read performance for media ?
Yeah I'm rethinking things. I suppose it doesn't make much sense to have all this content and lose it to a single drive failure.

As for stripping was just looking at the highest total space.
 

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I have a qnap ts 451 that is 10 years old and still runs fine. Only issue I had was a clock issue in the Celeron processor that was fixed by putting a 100ohm resistor between two jumpers. I run a Plex server, a MySQL server and 4 containers for my Usenet stuff. I did upgrade it from 4 gigs of ram to 8 gigs.

It does bog down when transcoding for remote viewing with Plex on occasion but for local viewing it runs just fine. I use Kodi for local streaming.

I would think that the arm processor will be just fine streaming locally.
 
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I have a qnap ts 451 that is 10 years old and still runs fine. Only issue I had was a clock issue in the Celeron processor that was fixed by putting a 100ohm resistor between two jumpers. I run a Plex server, a MySQL server and 4 containers for my Usenet stuff. I did upgrade it from 4 gigs of ram to 8 gigs.

It does bog down when transcoding for remote viewing with Plex on occasion but for local viewing it runs just fine. I use Kodi for local streaming.

I would think that the arm processor will be just fine streaming locally.
Won't be using plex at all, Kodi all the way. I'll keep thinking about it. Max Ram is 16gb which I would do right off the jump. Also considering just getting an ATX case and filling it full of NAS HDD's and running TruNAS. Honestly I'm driving myself nuts.
 

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Won't be using plex at all, Kodi all the way. I'll keep thinking about it. Max Ram is 16gb which I would do right off the jump. Also considering just getting an ATX case and filling it full of NAS HDD's and running TruNAS. Honestly I'm driving myself nuts.
The qnap would be more than enough for kodi playback. But then I built my own and installed truenas.
Depends on how much you like doing stuff your own. Qnap is for sure easy to set up and use. I found their OS fairly easy. You could run multiple apps on it and still not see a slowdown.
 

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I use Unraid OS because it has the advantage of being able to swap in parts from my gaming pc as I upgrade it. You can also pretty much use any HD as long as the parity drive is the larger capacity. Disadvantage is spending money for a license if you want to use over a certain amount of HD's but its been well worth it for me.

You can usually find decent deals for large capacity HDs on goharddrive or serverpartdeals. I've bought recertified enterprise drives (18TB+) from them for over 10 years now and I've had only one failure.

For CPUs for media playing you really just want to make sure the cpu is modern enough to transcode the different formats. I think Intel has a chart for what cpus do but i think any modern i3 or i5 is plenty.
 
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I saw this video come up on my feed and thought of you guys

 
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Anyone have experience with one of these?


I'm worried that the ARM processor will be too slow. I'm only going to use it for photo/doc backup but I'd also like to stream movies off it to multiple devices. Shield + HDD isn't working, can barely stream 1 movie and forget trying to FF/RW it saturates it and crashes.
So I pulled the trigger and bought the TS-932PX, filled it with (5) 8TB WD red drives in Raid 5 and using (4) 2TB WD Red SSD's in RAID 10 for cache Acceleration. Thing spent all night last night building itself. Now I cannot for the life of me get a volume to create. I'm doing what all the literature / videos tell me to but I get to the volume creation tool and it doesn't show any discs for me to select.

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Since I cannot select a disk, I cannot create shit. Anyone else run into this? I'm pausing for a while since I'm getting the distinct urge to take a sledge hammer to this fucking thing.


Operator error as usual.
 
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I have a Synology DS420+ and have noticed issues streaming 4k. So I'm doing several things:
  1. I'm adding two NVME drives to it since there are two empty slots for that. One of them will store metadata (1TB 990 EVO) and the other will be for caching (1TB RED SN700), which should expoentially increase loading times.
  2. I'm adding another stick of Crucial 8GB DDR4 RAM to it (there's 1 additional slot), to take it from the standard 2GB to 10GB.
  3. I'm going to add a 4th HD (12TB WD Red HDD) and move all my media onto it, and then reformat from JBOD to SHR, making future upgrades more fluid.
I'm hoping these two things will improve my experience.

Would've been sweet to know all this a couple of years ago when I started, but I guess this is the learning curve in action and shows how big a help ChatGPT is for issues like this.

Kajiimagi Kajiimagi 's post over in the Xbox thread inspired all this, so glad he mentioned being able to improve buffering/caching on his NAS by making a few changes.
 
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I made the mistake of "checking" my 12TB HDD as soon as I installed it. Should be about 30 hours before it's done, lulz.
 
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It seems like the Synology NAS new versions are going to require using a Synology branded HDD? Is that still the preferred brand or are there any good alternatives these days?

I’ve been interested in building a NAS for years, mostly for local playback I think, but not sure maybe would stream in the future. I’ve been using a shield + external HD for 5-10 years but about to start a family so figure over the next decade will be using more than 1 TV at a time.
 

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It seems like the Synology NAS new versions are going to require using a Synology branded HDD?
I don't remember the specifics, but I built one last year and saw a lot of people complain about this when I was researching. I got one anyway, so it seemed either theoretical or only limited features I didn't care about, and I've had no problem with non-branded hds. They may be ramping up the problems though:
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For home use though, I'm not sure any of that is relevant. (or you could get an older model) I'd probably dig into the restrictions on storage pools though, just to be safe.
 

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I built my own truenas scale. If you read my previous posts I didn't have any back up for the 4 12 tb Western digital red nas drives that I had my media on. One of them started getting write errors. So I ended up redoing my nas.

I upgraded my CPU to an i7 14700k for transcoding with my Plex server. I generally have 5 or 6 friend and family using my Plex at any one time, so that's helped quote a bit.

I also added 4 more disks, replacing the erroring drive on top of the 7 I had already for a 10 wide raidz3 that gives me 72 TB of usable drive space. I can lose three of the 10 and not lose any data, so I'm pretty happy with that data protection.

If your the least bit technical, I'd recommend building your own, rather than be locked into a company. I say that has someone who used qnap for a decade.
 
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So, fun fact... In an effort to upgrade my NAS and move it to SHR from JBOD, I didn't realize that I'd be actively nuking the build speed when I rebuild my pool by keeping a 6TB guy in there. LULZ. So, now I need to buy yet another 10TB WD Red, just so it doesn't take 30 days to rebuild. GG.

My $250 investment just turned into a $500 investment (not including the 2 Nvme's and RAM).
 

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It seems like the Synology NAS new versions are going to require using a Synology branded HDD? Is that still the preferred brand or are there any good alternatives these days?

I’ve been interested in building a NAS for years, mostly for local playback I think, but not sure maybe would stream in the future. I’ve been using a shield + external HD for 5-10 years but about to start a family so figure over the next decade will be using more than 1 TV at a time.

They gave up on that after people gave them shit for being greedy, now they just stick with passive aggressive warnings like 'this drive's manufacturer hasn't paid us kickbacks this drive hasn't been certified for use in this NAS'
 

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Some drives I bought were not on the approved list, and after fiddling with them I'm forced to believe it is because the drive tray has an extra little nub that helps secure the drive in place that doesn't fit anywhere into the drive itself, so it won't seat properly. So I snipped that nub off and everything worked great!
 

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I read through this thread...

Is a NAS the way to go to store my stuff off my phones? I'm outta cloud storage. If yes, I need a VERY easy to setup NAS. Is this one any good?


Also, can my stuff off my Android be sent automatically?
 

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I read through this thread...

Is a NAS the way to go to store my stuff off my phones? I'm outta cloud storage. If yes, I need a VERY easy to setup NAS. Is this one any good?


Also, can my stuff off my Android be sent automatically?
If you're emphasizing easy and you don't really need the other things that a NAS can do, you might be better off just buying a big external drive that you can dump your stuff to through your pc (or just an extra drive in your pc). I mostly got mine for drive redundancy and to be able to run programs from multiple computers while storing the data in a central place. I got a Synology, which was supposed to be one of the easier options, and it probably still took me a week or two of fucking with things to get it all sorted out.
I'm sure you can automate the phone transfer in either case, but I haven't done it so I don't have any recommendations. Synology has an app that lets you schedule backups of your pcs, so I imagine there's something similar for mobiles.
 

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I read through this thread...

Is a NAS the way to go to store my stuff off my phones? I'm outta cloud storage. If yes, I need a VERY easy to setup NAS. Is this one any good?


Also, can my stuff off my Android be sent automatically?
if you want just a simple click and go (it looks like thats just what you want)

download this on play for 6bucks

it's the sync software, if you currently use googlesync/amazon? that can do that too and sync to local files

then you just need to have a basic external drive like a
Western Digital 8TB My Book Desktop External Hard Drive, USB 3.0, External HDD with Password Protection and Backup Software - WDBBGB0080HBK-NESN

this is essentially just a hard drive in an enclosure w/ a powersupply

if you want a more portable (you can just unplug it and store it in your safe)
WD 5TB My Passport Ultra, Blue, Portable External Hard Drive, backup software with defense against ransomware, and password protection, USB-C and USB 3.1 - WDBFTM0050BBL-WESN


you don't have to install any software/drivers when you plug it in, it'll just be another drive, i mean you can install the westerndigital software, but i wouldn't


so buy an external drive
download the app, set local storage (computer external drive) and sync

you can even just download the app now and sync to the c:\drive to test it out and you can sync wifi so you don't need to plug in, just task it to execute at 3am or something
 
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if you want just a simple click and go (it looks like thats just what you want)

download this on play for 6bucks

it's the sync software, if you currently use googlesync/amazon? that can do that too and sync to local files

then you just need to have a basic external drive like a
Western Digital 8TB My Book Desktop External Hard Drive, USB 3.0, External HDD with Password Protection and Backup Software - WDBBGB0080HBK-NESN

this is essentially just a hard drive in an enclosure w/ a powersupply

if you want a more portable (you can just unplug it and store it in your safe)
WD 5TB My Passport Ultra, Blue, Portable External Hard Drive, backup software with defense against ransomware, and password protection, USB-C and USB 3.1 - WDBFTM0050BBL-WESN


you don't have to install any software/drivers when you plug it in, it'll just be another drive, i mean you can install the westerndigital software, but i wouldn't


so buy an external drive
download the app, set local storage (computer external drive) and sync

you can even just download the app now and sync to the c:\drive to test it out and you can sync wifi so you don't need to plug in, just task it to execute at 3am or something

I don't care what they say about you...you're still an asshole.

JK! Thanks brother.
 
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