Exactly. Considering almost next to no discussion took place for the first rotation, which Apok now literally considers the law.I'm confused? How can they actually believe "this meeting is in violation of everything the GMS have set for us", when they(DBG) have specifically said rotations rules/setup can change if guilds agree on it? Like those agreements just magically appear without discussions?
You sure are relentless. You're fighting against a system that presents the most equity for allApok is stomping their feet and crying for 1/5th of the loot, soon to be 1/7th of the loot later today. They cant even kill the noble cycle and struggle with classic content as it is. They in 2 months never had the intelligence or leadership to beat us to any mob which is why we are even here.
You seriously think in a month when Kunark drops that they have any chance against Gorenaire, Talendor, Trak, or VS being buffed?
What you're seeing is an effective PR campaign, but trust me its so full of hot shit it hurts me to see people even try to defend any TL proposed rotation. They're back channeling with guilds and giving them concessions to gain public support is only way I can deduce another guild besides their own buying into this. They literally post and whine on every alt account they have all day complaining about the rotation on the forums. The same people even made an Alt guild so they could get an extra crack at the rotation. TL and its affiliates are willing to do anything to win, people need to not forget that, this rotation curtails their inherent advantage( no life, superior gear(No life helps with this), willing to cheat/exploit/steamroll anyone in the way) and they hate it.From an outside perspective it sounds like he's looking around and seeing everyone agree on something except for one whining group of cunts.
Couldn't be that you guys came up with a terrible rotation that caters specifically to your guild by reducing any kind of competition against TL and pushes away smaller guilds from raid scene. "Trust me", we don't have to do a "PR campaign" to make your guild look like condescending idiots, you do that on your own. For a guild that claims to like competition, you guys sure do your best to avoid it.What you're seeing is an effective PR campaign, but trust me its so full of hot shit it hurts me to see people even try to defend any TL proposed rotation. They're back channeling with guilds and giving them concessions to gain public support is only way I can deduce another guild besides their own buying into this. They literally post and whine on every alt account they have all day complaining about the rotation on the forums. The same people even made an Alt guild so they could get an extra crack at the rotation. TL and its affiliates are willing to do anything to win, people need to not forget that, this rotation curtails their inherent advantage( no life, superior gear(No life helps with this), willing to cheat/exploit/steamroll anyone in the way) and they hate it.
Couldn't it be that the rotation we put in place caters to everyone but you? It's not that it doesn't cater to you it just doesn't give you all the mob spawns, so clearly it doesn't cater to what you want. We want every guild that's capable of killing the mobs in the rotation to be on the rotation period. You're trying to spin it that were trying to block out smaller guilds which is completely untrue. We want to give everyone an equal chance at a raiding experience without having to poop sock or dps race other guilds for every spawn. You clearly take issue with this. Just look at the stats post rotation and pre rotation and tell me why any guild but yourself would take issue with it in its current form? We even expanded the gate keeper mobs to give more people the ability to gain access to the rotation. You choose to be stuck in that private chat because your greed refuses to allow an equitable system to exist, so you've been waging war against and perpetuating it yourself. I guarantee if you guys accepted the rotation as is all these discussions and issues would go away, but clearly that's not going to happen because you wont be happy until it's setup so that you receive at least 50% of the mobs in the rotation. Name calling dojii and the guild is ironic considering your guild acts like the biggest bunch of greedy dbag man children I've ever seen. your guild and their lack of respect for everyone else and the abundance of iso boxing, macro questing, mage armies running around in your guild is honestly a huge factor in what makes ragefire a piece of shit. I could argue that you're just as crazy and delusional for actually believing any of the shit you guys say about your intentions for the server. Anyone who actually plays on the server should know that TL is only out for TL. Also the macro quest issue was a joke(TL members were suspended as well). The one member who got us all suspended was booted from our guild, and I've watched members in your guild teleport, run around to mobs the second they spawn without any bards, rangers, or druids and even openly in chat use macro quest commands(call it a troll all you want but could just as easily say it was a mistake just the same). In the end this is really just a pot kettle scenario, and I guess you've been spewing this bullshit so long you've actually talked yourself into believing it.Couldn't be that you guys came up with a terrible rotation that caters specifically to your guild by reducing any kind of competition against TL and pushes away smaller guilds from raid scene. "Trust me", we don't have to do a "PR campaign" to make your guild look like condescending idiots, you do that on your own. For a guild that claims to like competition, you guys sure do your best to avoid it.
As I've stated a hundred times, rotations are the stupidest thing to bring to open world content. If we have to have rotations, it needs to be mutually beneficial for all parties. To this day, I'm still amazed at how difficult it is to change this idiotic rotation that you guys managed to back door. Holly doesn't give two shits about Everquest and literally threw it at Roshen to babysit, now I'm stuck in a permanent private chat with Apok, Rosengard, RoE leaders and Roshen. All I hear is Dojii cry about everything.
I was actually pulling for Apok to not make themselves out to be complete idiots at the summit Roshen allowed Dojii to hold, but you guys did a great job on your own at making yourself look completely incompetent. I talked to Dojii for a few minutes begging the dude to not be a complete douche bag and to take the shit seriously for the sake of the server, the logs speak for themselves though.
Doesn't help that your own leadership was sending me tells during their summit asking me for advice on how to move the discussion. You guys are absolutely crazy.
As an aside, I find it extremely ironic that you insist on calling us cheaters when your guild got a week suspension for using MQ to track raid mobs and taunt them out of GM invis.
Right? Can't believe anyone even gets mad about this dumb shit.Why on earth guys? Why bother?
You do understand that it's actually an amazing rotation concept for those that will miss mobs due to bad spawn times, right?Couldn't it be that the rotation we put in place caters to everyone but you? It's not that it doesn't cater to you it just doesn't give you all the mob spawns, so clearly it doesn't cater to what you want. We want every guild that's capable of killing the mobs in the rotation to be on the rotation period. You're trying to spin it that were trying to block out smaller guilds which is completely untrue. We want to give everyone an equal chance at a raiding experience without having to poop sock or dps race other guilds for every spawn. You clearly take issue with this. Just look at the stats post rotation and pre rotation and tell me why any guild but yourself would take issue with it in its current form? We even expanded the gate keeper mobs to give more people the ability to gain access to the rotation. You choose to be stuck in that private chat because your greed refuses to allow an equitable system to exist, so you've been waging war against and perpetuating it yourself. I guarantee if you guys accepted the rotation as is all these discussions and issues would go away, but clearly that's not going to happen because you wont be happy until it's setup so that you receive at least 50% of the mobs in the rotation. Name calling dojii and the guild is ironic considering your guild acts like the biggest bunch of greedy dbag man children I've ever seen. your guild and their lack of respect for everyone else and the abundance of iso boxing, macro questing, mage armies running around in your guild is honestly a huge factor in what makes ragefire a piece of shit. I could argue that you're just as crazy and delusional for actually believing any of the shit you guys say about your intentions for the server. Anyone who actually plays on the server should know that TL is only out for TL. Also the macro quest issue was a joke(TL members were suspended as well). The one member who got us all suspended was booted from our guild, and I've watched members in your guild teleport, run around to mobs the second they spawn without any bards, rangers, or druids and even openly in chat use macro quest commands(call it a troll all you want but could just as easily say it was a mistake just the same). In the end this is really just a pot kettle scenario, and I guess you've been spewing this bullshit so long you've actually talked yourself into believing it.
I like how you try to distinguish that you log on to use the char and not spy yet you originally joined our guild(and are still in it) with the intention of spying, so it's moot. The fact you admittedly have a spy char in our guild says a lot too. I guess you no longer need to keep it logged in to see where were going now that we have a fair and equitable rotation in place. Also to note all the people you SSed in that chat are no longer in our guild. The one individual doing most the shit talking was in our guild for literally a week. He had that mentality from the streets of Norrath we didn't indoctrinate him that was learned behavior being solo and dealing with your guild members in dungeons/the world.Though our mentality has been reinforced from countless instances of you being disrespectful, arrogant, pricks, but honestly the amount of shit talk that goes on is actually pretty limited considering those facts.Jesus man Flux you're brainwashed. I have access to a character in apok and everytime I log on (not to spy but to use the char) I always am fucking amazed at the shit you guys say. Granted I havent been on that char in a month but previous everytime I was on you guys were always talking shit about TL. I remember this gem of a quote I took a picture of, which sums up the apokalpysis guildchat/mentality.