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Did everything I could in the demo and picked up the full version and season pass because I'll play it day one. Almost through the entire first map for what's doable. Been one shotting everything up until now so we'll see what happens when I reach this 4-5 bosses in a row stage.
 
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I finished the game late last night and I guess "struggled" on a few bosses, but never near as much as pure souls games and nothing felt cheap and unfair. Going through first map again on ng+ now and things are a bit more difficult so far so a nice change. Really enjoyed this game, so much fun to "master" a style and weave interesting moves when things start click. I will also say that my build never really came online until the VERY end.
 
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What's a good weapon to main in Nioh 2? And what Guardian Spirit to take at the beginning?

It has some serious "paralysis by analysis" at the beginning, giving you 11 weapons to pick from and 3 Guardian Spirits. What is this, Pokemon?

I really wanted to try the Spear in one of these, and Low Stance Spear seems to work really well. High Stance Axe works well in Nioh 1 while being kinda ass in Nioh 2, I hear? Then again I've looked at a few lists and they all ranked the Spear pretty low, with things like Fist winning out. I get the feeling Fist (and Switchglaive, and the staff) are super high skill-ceiling weapons, being the new ones. As someone with low-ish skill (only as much as I needed to get through Sekiro and all the Soulsbornes), a high skill ceiling isn't gonna do much for me.

I tried a few things and started over. I know the weapon choice at the start is mainly about the stats (went with Constitution and Heart) rather than the weapons. They got rid of the Spirit stat and split Stamina's effects between two stats, Stamina and Courage. I kinda wish they would have just dropped another stat and consolidated effects instead. The stats are so good/important that it's impossible to get everything you need without having some weak points from stats falling off (or having everything be Mid because you have to spread points around so much). Can't get away with stat-pooling as much as in other games of this type.

Nioh 2 is so much smoother than Nioh 1 in terms of the speed of the gameplay. Or maybe I'm just imagining it.
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Tonfa are pretty great in nioh 2. Spear too.
 
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stupidmonkey said:
Did everything I could in the demo and picked up the full version and season pass because I'll play it day one. Almost through the entire first map for what's doable. Been one shotting everything up until now so we'll see what happens when I reach this 4-5 bosses in a row stage.
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3080 handling it?
 
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Feels like Nioh 2 enemies track you way more than Nioh 1. Like the first couple bosses would take these giant swings, hesitate, and actually rotate following my character all the way around before they slammed the attack. It's a ridiculous amount of tracking. I'm guessing you're supposed to rely less on dodging and more on blocking or parrying. They also have the big red moves that do huge damage, that you're supposed to parry while in Yokai form, but what if you're not in Yokai form (which is the case most of the time)? I was getting crushed on the first side-mission boss of Nioh 2 until I got lucky and stumbled into a win.

Nioh 2 is pretty great outside of boss tracking. What an awesome game.
 
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Rajaah said:
Feels like Nioh 2 enemies track you way more than Nioh 1. Like the first couple bosses would take these giant swings, hesitate, and actually rotate following my character all the way around before they slammed the attack. It's a ridiculous amount of tracking. I'm guessing you're supposed to rely less on dodging and more on blocking or parrying. They also have the big red moves that do huge damage, that you're supposed to parry while in Yokai form, but what if you're not in Yokai form (which is the case most of the time)? I was getting crushed on the first side-mission boss of Nioh 2 until I got lucky and stumbled into a win.

Nioh 2 is pretty great outside of boss tracking. What an awesome game.
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The red means you should burst counter, brute is easiest but trades damage sometimes, phantom is parry god, and feral is a long dodge basically. Yokai Shift | Nioh 2 Wiki

I ended up with brute through most of the game, while slow you can hit it as soon as you hear the audio queue and counter them no timing needed.

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Well shit, crashed three times in same spot. Short of a driver roll back or the like not sure what to do.
 
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Cruised through NG+ this weekend using my spear build and nothing really even put up a fight at all. Even bloodedge demon was a breeze in the first hour with only a couple upgrades. I definitely see where the 'too easy' complaints are coming from. I don't think they really knew how to handle NG+ in an open world(-ish) game either. You can basically just teleport straight to the main missions with only a couple exceptions.

End game is basically the same as the other Niohs. Spend ages trying to get a yasikani, then spend an eternity trying to get one that even has one affix that's relevant, and a grace that isn't one of the worthless ones. You can target farm just about anything provided you've looted it once before, so at least getting the second and beyond is a bit easier (though it's worth mentioning that samurai and ninja ones are completely separate items). Getting a moderately good set of 160(+6) gear is fairly straightforward, but after that you slam into a massive wall. Soul matching stops at 160, so 161-170 items are drop only, which means you don't want to invest more than a minor amount of materials upgrading them to +5 or +6 because you'll just have to do it again with a 170 drop. The cost to upgrade even one item to +14 is utterly absurd too. I had fun putting together two completely maxed out builds in Nioh 2 prior to the DLC, but definitely not going to do that this time.

Still had a great time with it though. Should easily be a game of the year contender, especially if they don't repeat their past mistakes in the DLC this time around.
 
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I'm having quite a lot of fun with samurai cestus. Linking all the combos together for big damage just feels damn good when I can pull it off as I dont quite have the muscle memory down yet. My dude is shirtless with a giant dragon back tattoo. He's discount Kiryu.
 
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Vorph said:
Cruised through NG+ this weekend using my spear build and nothing really even put up a fight at all. Even bloodedge demon was a breeze in the first hour with only a couple upgrades. I definitely see where the 'too easy' complaints are coming from. I don't think they really knew how to handle NG+ in an open world(-ish) game either. You can basically just teleport straight to the main missions with only a couple exceptions.

End game is basically the same as the other Niohs. Spend ages trying to get a yasikani, then spend an eternity trying to get one that even has one affix that's relevant, and a grace that isn't one of the worthless ones. You can target farm just about anything provided you've looted it once before, so at least getting the second and beyond is a bit easier (though it's worth mentioning that samurai and ninja ones are completely separate items). Getting a moderately good set of 160(+6) gear is fairly straightforward, but after that you slam into a massive wall. Soul matching stops at 160, so 161-170 items are drop only, which means you don't want to invest more than a minor amount of materials upgrading them to +5 or +6 because you'll just have to do it again with a 170 drop. The cost to upgrade even one item to +14 is utterly absurd too. I had fun putting together two completely maxed out builds in Nioh 2 prior to the DLC, but definitely not going to do that this time.

Still had a great time with it though. Should easily be a game of the year contender, especially if they don't repeat their past mistakes in the DLC this time around.
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About where I'm at as well, great time though and combat is SSS tier. Shelving for a while as there isn't much else to do, even changed builds for a change of pace and quickly started obliterating everything again.
 
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About where I'm at as well, great time though and combat is SSS tier. Shelving for a while as there isn't much else to do, even changed builds for a change of pace and quickly started obliterating everything again.
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Did you actually have 170 gear drop for you? I could never figure out what the trigger was for it. Aside from the mask that I think always drops from final boss on NG+ I never got a single piece of gear above 169. I was wearing a mix of stuff that was all 160-169, I used level scaling on the Scion mission I was farming. Had 20+36% drop rate, almost 500 luck, and even after many thousands of items it just never bumped up to 170.
 
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Hatorade said:
The red means you should burst counter, brute is easiest but trades damage sometimes, phantom is parry god, and feral is a long dodge basically. Yokai Shift | Nioh 2 Wiki

I ended up with brute through most of the game, while slow you can hit it as soon as you hear the audio queue and counter them no timing needed.

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I picked the electric bird at the beginning instead of the Brute. Got a couple hours in and have yet to see another Brute spirit, they're all just Feral. Considered starting over, but it probably isn't necessary.
 
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Well shit, crashed three times in same spot. Short of a driver roll back or the like not sure what to do.
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Performance is worse in this area but not crashing anymore, I may shelve this one and or double dip and just get the PS5 version.
 
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Performance is worse in this area but not crashing anymore, I may shelve this one and or double dip and just get the PS5 version.
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Great Tengu scene after you beat him crashed on me twice. Been skipping scenes just in case but no other issues.
 
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