NVidia GeForce RTX 50x0 cards - 70% performance increase, but AI > you

Utnayan

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Mythos was released to the public as Fable a couple days ago. Any cybersecurity or biological questions get auto-routed to previous Sonnet LLM instead for security until they can figure out a better way.

I give it about a week before safety triggers start failing.
 

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I give it about a week before safety triggers start failing.
*Supposedly* the newer ChatGPT LLM is as good as Mythos/Fable for cybersecurity stuff and there are no blocks but I haven't dug deep into that since I stopped caring about ChatGPT months ago.
 
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And then after we've replaced all of the junior roles are replaced, and it starts replacing the middle experienced users and those that survive age out, who replaces you since we've successfully destroyed the training and experience pipeline?
 
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And then after we've replaced all of the junior roles are replaced, and it starts replacing the middle experienced users and those that survive age out, who replaces you since we've successfully destroyed the training and experience pipeline?

Yeah I feel like most of us (50+) are going to be scooting out of this nightmare just in time. Anyone 40 and under at this point, and the rate this is all going, is fucked.

They are estimating singularity in what, 4 years? :(
 

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I'm 40, I'm completely fucked as I'm in accounting and finance. We're rushing headfirst into hallucinating financials at this point. It's going to destroy a lot of things before people learn this is best left to creative endeavors, not black and white data people rely on.
 
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Yeah I feel like most of us (50+) are going to be scooting out of this nightmare just in time. Anyone 40 and under at this point, and the rate this is all going, is fucked.

They are estimating singularity in what, 4 years? :(
It's not so much about age as it is about how much money you've already accumulated. If you're 20 years old and have millions of dollars you're better off than the 35 year old working a day job with $100,000 in his 401k.

My plan the last few years has been accumulate as much as possible so that if I don't make it to retirement I'll at least have enough to live comfortably until I get my bastardised 70% version of social security. My retirement goals are luckily pretty cheap and I'm already in a senior leadership position so it's not too much work to make it to some sort of end. Society will probably go ape shit before I start hurting so it should hopefully sort itself out before I'm fucked.
 
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It's not so much about age as it is about how much money you've already accumulated. If you're 20 years old and have millions of dollars you're better off than the 35 year old working a day job with $100,000 in his 401k.
Yeah, if I had to do it over again, that is exactly what I’d have done differently.
 
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And then after we've replaced all of the junior roles are replaced, and it starts replacing the middle experienced users and those that survive age out, who replaces you since we've successfully destroyed the training and experience pipeline?

It’s like a pro sports team replacing their farm team with robots that can’t play at the pro level to save money. Short term maybe you do, until you need to replace pro players and realize you have nothing in-house and now can only fight for expensive free agents
 
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Figured by now the power and signal would be on separate connectors. Make the power a super heavy connector similar to what you showed and small signal connector.

You can get a 220 volt welder from tractor supply off the shelf that you can plug into the right outlet and be good to go and they can't come up with something for a GPU?
 
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Borzak

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Bring it on, this side of the house is wired for 220. Of course I'd probably have to put in a new AC unit just for this end of the house too. Might as well make a home run AI data site. I did see Nvidia or someone made the comment that was the next step distributed AI data sites in your own neighborhood. At one time there was a water weel on the creek that is on this property. What is old is new again.
 

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And then after we've replaced all of the junior roles are replaced, and it starts replacing the middle experienced users and those that survive age out, who replaces you since we've successfully destroyed the training and experience pipeline?

I suspect this problem is going to self correcting, because all the LLMs are being sold at a crippling loss currently. The business case for not contracting off-shore resources or hiring junior devs looks a lot less appealing if the AI costs are 10x what they were 2 weeks ago ( given the squeeze already started june1 ).

If there are miraculous advancements in hardware/cooling/power/model efficiency, then I suspect it will still end up being pretty much business as usual, for the same reason that coding hasn't collapsed due to lack of people who can write useful binary - it's pretty expected that maybe a couple of people on the planet can come up with machine code more efficient than a compiler these days, and they have better things to do than writing custom software for finance companies.
 

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It’s like a pro sports team replacing their farm team with robots that can’t play at the pro level to save money. Short term maybe you do, until you need to replace pro players and realize you have nothing in-house and now can only fight for expensive free agents
Who is to say AI won't grow to be pro level sooner than it matters? There isn't any reason why AI won't get "smarter" faster than the need for entry level humans again. I just don't understand why people think there will be some cliff that AI hits where humans messed up and will need entry level labor again. I'm just not seeing a world where AI isn't outpacing any issue that would arise from having low entry level labor learn a job.
 

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It's not so much about age as it is about how much money you've already accumulated. If you're 20 years old and have millions of dollars you're better off than the 35 year old working a day job with $100,000 in his 401k.

My plan the last few years has been accumulate as much as possible so that if I don't make it to retirement I'll at least have enough to live comfortably until I get my bastardised 70% version of social security. My retirement goals are luckily pretty cheap and I'm already in a senior leadership position so it's not too much work to make it to some sort of end. Society will probably go ape shit before I start hurting so it should hopefully sort itself out before I'm fucked.
The only flaw in your plan is 70% replacement rate for Social Security relies on the intake of current FICA taxes. If AI displaces that much of the workforce, suddenly they're not collecting FICA anymore and that 70% drops to almost nothing, if not zero.
 

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The only flaw in your plan is 70% replacement rate for Social Security relies on the intake of current FICA taxes. If AI displaces that much of the workforce, suddenly they're not collecting FICA anymore and that 70% drops to almost nothing, if not zero.
Even the 70% is assuming social security can't afford itself. The current incoming amount hits 70% after it depletes itself in like 2030 or whatever it is, so yes if employment drops significantly even that 70% is gone from lack of incoming funds. At that point we have societal upheaval though.