Aldarion
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Wat?
You could line up the 25k least attractive women on the planet and they'd all be more attractive than that thing somehow
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You could line up the 25k least attractive women on the planet and they'd all be more attractive than that thing somehow
meStevo
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Man, this went from a simple and interesting story I loved to a wide ranging, dense... thing... and not really sure I liked it.
Feels like they're telling like 3 stories too many. Maybe once it settles a bit and watch some pods or something I'll come around.
Feels like they're telling like 3 stories too many. Maybe once it settles a bit and watch some pods or something I'll come around.
Khane
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I like this show and think showing the outside world this soon is the right choice so those characters and storylines get appropriate screen time. Story is interesting, characters are interesting, acting is mostly pretty good.
The only exception being Sinatra. Both the way that character is written and the actress... it's just B movie shlock.
They even have Gerald McRaney and could have just cast him as Sinatra and told him to just reprise his role as George Hurst but instead we get... that. That character really drags the show down whenever on screen.
And they killed off Billy, one of the better characters, way too early. At least we are getting some more of him in flashbacks I guess.
The only exception being Sinatra. Both the way that character is written and the actress... it's just B movie shlock.
They even have Gerald McRaney and could have just cast him as Sinatra and told him to just reprise his role as George Hurst but instead we get... that. That character really drags the show down whenever on screen.
And they killed off Billy, one of the better characters, way too early. At least we are getting some more of him in flashbacks I guess.
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Haven't started the new season yet, but this is literally how every one of these mystery box shows based on a really interesting premise goes. The pilot is awesome, and the rest of the first season really unfolds masterfully. But they weren't really sure what to do after that, or if it'd even get picked up for a second season. So they limp through it, with 1/4 of the time to prepare storyboards compared to the first season, and they go off the rails because there was no larger plan.
Why come up with an overarching idea that runs out after 3-4 seasons, upfront, when you can just propose a fun idea and see where you can take it?
meStevo
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Agree largely with you both. I sure do wish that secret service agent and Sinatra didn't make it out of S1.
For some reason this initial batch of episodes reminds me of The Last of Us, where they are obligated to tell this wider series of stories rather than sticking with a narrower narrative.
One thing that bugged me in the moment that I haven't cared to fire it back up and see if I just had it wrong...
Anyways, just feels like this is heading more towards Under the Dome quality rather than what I'd have considered as good as some of the best TV around before S2. This should be a exponentially higher quality Jericho, but instead it feels like it's seeking to barely clear that low bar.
Hopefully subsequent episodes narrow things a bit more. Seems like it's established with these opening episodes it's going to go into a strange direction.
For some reason this initial batch of episodes reminds me of The Last of Us, where they are obligated to tell this wider series of stories rather than sticking with a narrower narrative.
One thing that bugged me in the moment that I haven't cared to fire it back up and see if I just had it wrong...
Didn't she hear the plane crash or something, and then hop on her horse and find him at the crash site ... but then when we get his view and the events that lead up to it... he crashed... was out... was wandering around, did this shit with the kids, got held up, abandoned, whatever ... and then went and passed out at the plane site to be found? Am I misunderstanding a bit of the continuity there?
Anyways, just feels like this is heading more towards Under the Dome quality rather than what I'd have considered as good as some of the best TV around before S2. This should be a exponentially higher quality Jericho, but instead it feels like it's seeking to barely clear that low bar.
Hopefully subsequent episodes narrow things a bit more. Seems like it's established with these opening episodes it's going to go into a strange direction.
Khane
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I don't think this will end up as meandering subplots or side stories, hopefully. The first two episodes of this season spent time showing us what happened outside of the dome and how people survived. And it only really introduced 1 new, connected piece of the story and the characters that will be involved with it.
The aftermath of the crash was framed oddly, I think it was supposed to only represent about a day, maybe 2, of real time but it the events made it seem longer? He crashed, followed the kid, reset his knee and passed out for unknown amount of time, wakes up, fights the bad guy (that was a weird choice, he was tracking a group of kids?), gets stabbed, passes out again. Kids leave and take his stuff, he tries to move on, gets dehydrated, passes out again and she finds him? It was shot and framed weirdly
No, but that dude being just normally crazy is still a reasonable explanation. I.e. instigating incident for the mother being a cunt, and no deeper meaning.
We'll see I guess.
I was a little disappointed at them for the kind of casually upbeat portrayal of the bunker buddies though. 7 people in a tiny space for 3 years with no running water or spare clothes ? Eeesh. ( Also, either there were another 10 levels of bunker filled with food and garbage or the writers reaaaaaaally underestimated how much people eat and how much packaging it has. Not to mention the poop situation ).
We'll see I guess.
I was a little disappointed at them for the kind of casually upbeat portrayal of the bunker buddies though. 7 people in a tiny space for 3 years with no running water or spare clothes ? Eeesh. ( Also, either there were another 10 levels of bunker filled with food and garbage or the writers reaaaaaaally underestimated how much people eat and how much packaging it has. Not to mention the poop situation ).
Khane
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Well, they certainly weren't going for the "dude is just crazy angle" based on the very beginning of the episode and all the messages. Maybe they were going for the "most idiotic rube goldberg machine secret government training program" angle though. I don't know which is worse.
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I didn't see anything supernatural unless you are talking about the emails at the beginning. Those were (or will be) sent via A.L.E.X. the most powerful quantum computer ever built. The only question is who sends them. My guess is the psych doctor. Guessing her because she is pretty fucking useless and that was a pretty fucking dumb plan to send that guy to the hospital.
Sinatra is building the quantum device to supposedly save everyone but it seems to me she really just wants to bring back her dead son and anything else is a bonus.
That scene was in 1997; introducing time travel is close enough to supernatural that the same complaints would probably apply.
It would also be painfully stupid because after inventing time travel you decide to be pointlessly cryptic - not even no name, or no gender, it doesn't even say what fucking hospital it is !
Assuming it was all real and time travel and part of a master plan whoever expected that guy to actually find a specific baby knew they had the power of plot armor to help them out.
It would also be painfully stupid because after inventing time travel you decide to be pointlessly cryptic - not even no name, or no gender, it doesn't even say what fucking hospital it is !
Assuming it was all real and time travel and part of a master plan whoever expected that guy to actually find a specific baby knew they had the power of plot armor to help them out.
Khane
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Yea... it probably will end up being something like quantum computing which ends up being the secret project down there and was the brainchild of baby daddy on the surface before his mentor was killed by Billy and signed over the tech.
And they will probably explain the needlessly complex, seemingly entirely left to chance strategy of turning Jane into the world's biggest psychopath as the computer creating millions of simulations and scenarios and using math to figure out this was the only way to get the exact, desired result. And its pretty unclear what its desired result is or why it would need Jane to be a psychopath. But the desired result is probably *not* to save the world.
And they will probably explain the needlessly complex, seemingly entirely left to chance strategy of turning Jane into the world's biggest psychopath as the computer creating millions of simulations and scenarios and using math to figure out this was the only way to get the exact, desired result. And its pretty unclear what its desired result is or why it would need Jane to be a psychopath. But the desired result is probably *not* to save the world.
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‘Paradise’ Renewed for Season 3 at Hulu
"Paradise" has been renewed for Season 3 at Hulu, Variety has learned.
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Mr. Poopybutthole
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Are you from the writing team? This show is starting to give me LOST vibes; the bloody noses, main character with her son's name and birthday, and Alex clearly being a thing not a person which they keep very obviously trying to misdirect with. I think they're going to do a time travel thing, with the meltdown/oxygen shortage/door lock "crisis" being averted at the last minute where it all starts from the beginning and we try again with some people remembering shit.
I mean, it's possible they could pull it off, but I doubt it.
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Season 1 is awesome.
Season 2 is a race baiting feninazi woke piece of fucking trash on all levels. Robinson turns into a “my people” fucktard, Xavier, who has been known as Xavier his whole fucking life is now, in season 2 known as X which is obviously a play on Malcolm X, “she’s dating a white guy?” Bullshit, teenage black girl boss bullshit, men getting their ass kicked by a 102 pound cum dumpster, all the way to using modern “therapy” jargon in discussions. “See how we handled that conflict resolution?” “Jane is nuts”. “Glad to know you don’t mean all women”. And a segment where they painted the president as the dumbest man on earth compared to the ceo lady when touring how the bunker works. Holy fucking shit it went down fast and is the worst shit I have ever watched. They even included Xavier switching gender roles to take a fucking baby along with him and teaching a mom how to swaddle a baby.
Not only that, it’s entirely predictable what Alex is knowing that 26 year old had a nose bleed and so did the CEO chick and it’s her kid and she went either into a Time Machine or alternate reality and Alex is that device and where the power is going.
This obviously ends with a woke version of the world which will never be based in fucking reality where the eruption never happened because Marxism was followed. Who the fuck green lit this shit?
Season 2 is a race baiting feninazi woke piece of fucking trash on all levels. Robinson turns into a “my people” fucktard, Xavier, who has been known as Xavier his whole fucking life is now, in season 2 known as X which is obviously a play on Malcolm X, “she’s dating a white guy?” Bullshit, teenage black girl boss bullshit, men getting their ass kicked by a 102 pound cum dumpster, all the way to using modern “therapy” jargon in discussions. “See how we handled that conflict resolution?” “Jane is nuts”. “Glad to know you don’t mean all women”. And a segment where they painted the president as the dumbest man on earth compared to the ceo lady when touring how the bunker works. Holy fucking shit it went down fast and is the worst shit I have ever watched. They even included Xavier switching gender roles to take a fucking baby along with him and teaching a mom how to swaddle a baby.
Not only that, it’s entirely predictable what Alex is knowing that 26 year old had a nose bleed and so did the CEO chick and it’s her kid and she went either into a Time Machine or alternate reality and Alex is that device and where the power is going.
This obviously ends with a woke version of the world which will never be based in fucking reality where the eruption never happened because Marxism was followed. Who the fuck green lit this shit?
Khane
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What?
Stop playing with your phone when you watch this show.
It's got some tropes but most of what you said is nonsense. The sequence with the President asking the scientist to dumb shit down for him is typical CEO/leader style assertiveness (let me stop you right there bud, ELI5 this shit), and at the end of that sequence the arrogant, crazy woman gets a history lesson from him that she ignores because she's an arrogant, crazy bitch. Which will be her downfall. That was the entire point of that sequence. It didn't paint him as a bumbling, drooling male dumbass.
The women in power in this show are painted pretty realistically as women with all the stereotypical female, emotional baggage.
And portraying a man as both a badass, and a good dad is somehow bad writing and woke garbage to you?
Utnayan
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You have to be fucking kidding me. This shit is so obvious a fucking four year old can see ALL the tropes. Season 2 is the dumbest wokest shit I ever fucking watched since last Jedi. Even my wife was rolling her eyes - we watching the same show??? It’s so fucking bad even Reddit discussions on this look republican.
Khane
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That fact that you think they are trying to paint the women in power in this show in a positive light is.... something.
Utnayan
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There is a difference between having well written female antagonists and this girl boss power bullshit. Season 1 was well written female antagonists. Season 2 went right into sweet baby Inc written garbage which makes Veilguard look like a fucking masterpiece.
Oh sorry I forgot one. The “hot nurse” who turns out to be a lesbian and gets married to the butch dike female mechanic who can somehow rebuild an engine for renewable biodiesel. And when they get to the “community” a fucking tranny at the podium leading the bid process. Dude. It’s fucking hilariously bad. The writing, the acting, the obvious progressive bullshit we all hate has been 1000000% double downed on beyond anything I have seen before.
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