Path of Exile

Couple dumb questions about T16.5-17 maps since this is the first league I've played since they were introduced. I've done a bunch of them but last night was the first time I ran into a couple things I hadn't seen before:

What causes the Uber Elder expanding rings to appear in 16.5's? I didn't see anything on the map affixes about them, but they were in the Toxic Sewer I ran last night anyway. Very annoying in cramped tunnels like that too, and I was pretty surprised that they were a one-shot mechanic in a random map too. Not quite as "avoid at all costs" as flask meteors, but definitely on the shitlist now.

"The Maven interferes with players" -- another extremely annoying one that I had been told to avoid just because it makes the map take forever. Last night I had a really easy (aside from Maven affix) Fortress drop so I did it anyway since I'm supposed to be immune to basically everything curse/ailment related at this point. Does Maven just ignore my 'Nearby Allies' Action Speed cannot be modified to below Base Value' effect from Garb of the Ephemeral? I was constantly getting slowed down while clearing the map even though my AG is always "nearby". I was able to ignore everything else the map threw at me as expected, but not that bullshit.

It's this suffix

Not sure about maven i feel like she hardly does anything but maybe i'm just clueless?

I think maven just snares you? Your actual abilities like flame dash etc shouldn’t be getting slowed

Pasteton said:

I think maven just snares you? Your actual abilities like flame dash etc shouldn’t be getting slowed

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She does grasping vine which dispels with teleport movement skills where as skills like shield charge etc only remove a stack or so.

Her healing can be annoying and she can definitely make the map rippier, tankier etc but most can be overcome with more dmg.

One thing I've been foregoing rolling my t17s is minus res. In a game where stacking tons of mods against you I feel like this base is the basis for so many rips in maps. It's just the single most rippiest mod.

Penance said:

She does grasping vine which dispels with teleport movement skills where as skills like shield charge etc only remove a stack or so.

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Ah, sounds like that was my problem. I don't really have much in the way of movement speed besides 20% on boots and a near-perma-uptime quicksilver flask and rely on Whirling Blades with 50% quality and faster attacks for zipping around the map. Maven's map mod really fucked with that despite not being able to be slowed below base, but I guess what you said there explains it. So if I just Frostblink right after she uses that debuff I can just go back to normal movement? I remember she shouted something distinct so it was really obvious when I was going to be snared, and she spammed it like crazy too.

The rest of her stuff didn't do anything noticeable at all compared to the other shit T17 throws at you.

Vorph said:

So if I just Frostblink right after she uses that debuff I can just go back to normal movement?

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Correct. Frost blink, flame dash, dash?, blink arrow smoke mine and probably that rewind skill.

A deadly duo I found out is drowning orbs with the action speed debuff when your perform an action. If you have a couple stacks of the ladder debuff the drowning orbs are absolutely impossible to get out of even if they spawn on you. It's frustration is compounded by doing the maps delirious and not being able to see shit.

I would really like an option in settings to have delirium just set things to grayscale and do nothing else graphically. I like the mechanic but I can't do the kind of stuff I want (combining it with blight for example) because it becomes a slideshow.