Pluribus

Chanur said:

Vegas Bond is going to end dying like Elvis .

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This is possible but I'm thinking it'll go like this:

1. Diabate continues to live in luxury through season 1
2. At some point in the end of season 1 or season 2, the natural conclusion of a pacifist lifestyle will result in the Plurbs no longer being able to support his nonsense
3. Diabate will do a character transformation from being the king on his throne to being the king serving the peasants by being some kind of banana plucker and chicken beheader.
4. We'll get flashbacks to Daibate's past where he was basically locked into servitude, and now has to live that life or see the plurbs die.
5. Open question on whether Plurbs are fertile and what their offspring looks like. Could be the virus has a VERY different impact on babies concieved after the virus infects the host, which could be a big shakeup for season 2 depending on how Vince wants to take that.

tbh, the positive version of that isn't that bad of a lifestyle. Live in some tropical paradise and maintain a community of 50ish people and all you have to do is pluck fruit and kill animals. Obviously it relies on the cooperation of a hostile alien virus.

Also, I just watched Black Mirror Season 7, Episode Plaything. Plaything (Black Mirror) - Wikipedia

Tuco said:

This is possible but I'm thinking it'll go like this:

1. Diabate continues to live in luxury through season 1
2. At some point in the end of season 1 or season 2, the natural conclusion of a pacifist lifestyle will result in the Plurbs no longer being able to support his nonsense
3. Diabate will do a character transformation from being the king on his throne to being the king serving the peasants by being some kind of banana plucker and chicken beheader.
4. We'll get flashbacks to Daibate's past where he was basically locked into servitude, and now has to live that life or see the plurbs die.
5. Open question on whether Plurbs are fertile and what their offspring looks like. Could be the virus has a VERY different impact on babies concieved after the virus infects the host, which could be a big shakeup for season 2 depending on how Vince wants to take that.

tbh, the positive version of that isn't that bad of a lifestyle. Live in some tropical paradise and maintain a community of 50ish people and all you have to do is pluck fruit and kill animals. Obviously it relies on the cooperation of a hostile alien virus.

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Or not getting sick and killing every human on earth since there is only a handful.

Oof this episode was boring as shit.

not sure what's more unbelievable, that a miserable dyke could last 45 days effectively in solitary without going mad or that the entirety of civilization would still be functional after 45 days without people to maintain it.

I liked how they established manousas complete and utter disregard for the hive and refusal to accept any help from them, contrasting with carol ordering them around like uber eats (it's getting really hard to suspend disbelief here given their established rules, they are clearly out of food by now and cannot support her with anything non processed unless carol is the one killing the cow), but then they took that away from him in the dumbest way possible. I guess to show that nobody could survive without the hive? I guess this is an alternate universe where Biden didn't let 20 million migrants walk across the border and collect welfare for life, cus on this planet fucking 8 year olds are part of migrant trains crossing the darien gap in 2-3 days, the trails are pretty well established by this point even though there aren't any paved roads.

Lame episode.

I hate the guy now, they managed to make him almost as retarded as Carol.

Carol still sucks retarded donkey balls.

A+ worst-people-ever simulator.

TairyGreene said:

They have billions of people who know literally everything to maintain it.

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not in Albuquerque they don't. Kinda one of the major plot points of the show, not sure how you missed it. Also you'll note they have abandoned pretty much every remote area, she has to call them to turn on power to the gas station between Vegas and NM. Even when they were still living with carol in NM, they turned off all the power in Albuquerque outside of her neighborhood until she got mad and told them to turn the city back on, they were perfectly fine sleeping in the dark.

They have to conserve energy of course because hey, it's not like they are drilling for new oil wells or anything, but that literally is not how electricity works, there isn't some giant battery they can just turn on and off at whim. energy grid is another aspect that it's just best not to think about because if people knew how precarious our daily situation is between civilization and going back to being cavemen it's best to just not think about. It's already hard enough suspending disbelief when it comes to the food crisis. But yeah, electricity, water, sewage? That shit stops working like day 3 at best without people.

Kirun said:

I mean, the show dedicated quite a good portion of screen time to showing how efficient their logistics are when everybody knows everything. Do you think they're all just sitting in a dark room finger popping their assholes this whole time?

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??

Do I think they are sitting in a dark room anywhere in Albuquerque? No I think the show has explicitly shown and stated outright that they completely abandoned ABQ to Carol, they've only had her listen to the damn recorded message about 97 fucking times in the last few episodes.

What are you even trying to argue here? Do you think they are invisible? have they secretly been sitting in camo in the background quietly maintaining the city and just pretending to be avoiding Carol because their feelings were hurt? the big huff n puff with them all loading up every single person and driving away in unison was just them being dramatic?? They're hiding in the bushes or something and they just wanted to show off their delivery drone flying skills?

For the record before you get it twisted again, i'm not arguing that the show should show that it all would fall to shit and Carol would of come begging for the hive to fix the city long before the 46 days. As much as i expected the show to be more realistic and more "life after people", I get it, it's not gonna do that. Things are just going to magically work out, stop thinking about it.

I understand the purpose of this episode, I just don't really like it or agree with it.

A) I don't like that they are going so into the weeds with specific limitations of what the Hive can/cannot do, and then completely ignore the logical ramifications of that. It would have been better had they just left it all vague instead of attempting to sound scientific and then just abandoning logic when it would impede the story.

B) The whole point of the episode was to contrast Carol and Manousas. Carol suddenly and magically is able to make it on her own with total competence., she gets drunk and sets her neighbors house on fire with fireworks and just junior fireman's up np, she goes on golf outings and avoids wildlife and just is living her best, miserable life, completely fine alone in a city. It wasn't competence that breaks her, it was psychological, it was loneliness that made her come crawling back to the hive.

Contrast with Manousas who is hostile to the hive completely, totally independent and competent, manages to make it 3k miles and 90% of the way through the darien gap completely on his own, intentionally avoiding any and all assistance from the hive then he slips up in the most ridiculous way possible doing his best 3 stooges impression and ends up almost dying alone in the woods only to be rescued by the hive due to his incompetence.

Carol has transformed into the competent one for reasons, who only needs someone to talk to to cure her one weakness, loneliness. and wouldn't you know it, formerly stoic and competent manousas happened to learn english on his slapstick adventure to travel to carol just in time to become a bumbling sidekick/comic relief.