Pruning the Politics thread for massive improvements, An experiment. (long read)

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Comrade Araysar

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How about you lick my balls you commie prick? Based on this response you know I'm right but you felt good that day flexing your pathetic mod muscle.

First, last I checked I'm still banned from the Pol thread

Second, D's are stupid in trying to debate and figure out what Trump voters want when what they want is basically racism masked in shit that is actually detrimental to them but at least there is the racism part. That's a waste of time and trying to get out more voters instead of worrying about the minority that is running this country would be way more worthwhile. I have no interest in debating anyone in that thread as it's never about policy but how Trump's and his cohorts lies and ripping everyone off are somehow Ok.

What would ever make you think you're right? Here I am offering you to come participate in the thread instead of being a spamming and parachuting faggot and you're proving me right by outright refusing.

See, you never wanted to discuss anything in good faith. You just wanted to spam a bunch of shit.

My only mistake was giving you the benefit of the doubt and a 7 day timeout when in fact it should have been a 7 year timeout. But I'll let the next batch of Amod deal with your ass.
 

Feanor

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I've never browsed General often. I will check those threads for a couple of days and forget about them for months. But I'm familiar enough to know the personalities that hang around that corner of the board. Wanted to address the following here since it relates to the question of pol thread content control
@suineg , your mod, Lightning Lord Rule, is in violation of your own rules. You have stated that mods are to not get involved in politics, but it is exactly this that has caused him to ban the account @The Edge .

1. I posted political discussion in the political meme thread twice(?) by accident. Never got any warning. Just "you're now banned from posting in political memes for posting discussion rather than memes." The two threads, Political Memes, and Politics Thread, are often right next to each other, and tend to look alike, so when posting from a phone and having big fingers that might hit the wrong one, you can see how the error was made.

2. I got banned from the political thread for "not engaging in conversation." It's true I don't respond to many people. I don't have the time. But to say I never respond after I post is a lie. But again, what rule is that breaking? When conservatives post videos from their talking heads, comedians, etc. = cool, np. I post satire vids from Colbert poking fun at their politics = propaganda/banned

3. Since I was banned from the politics thread, I posted roughly 2 videos in the video thread, dealing with politics, and 1 in the gun thread dealing with guns. That's what got me banned for a month.

If I had been a conservative, and posted the same equivalent content, no one would have batted an eye. Lightning Lord has shown his bias, and personal vendetta against me.

Show me one rule I broke. I don't post nearly enough for it to be spamming.

Silencing someone because you disagree with their beliefs is cowardly, and unfitting for the position of mod on this board. You can disagree with my politics and style, and not be a dick.

And since he likes to call me out for liking the prequels, this is only fitting:

I call for a vote of no confidence in Lightning Lord Rule.

He should step down or be removed.

If you can't follow your own rules, you're a hypocrite.

This board deserves better.
Don't get why these types are so incurably butthurt. If you hate it here then why keep visiting.

Far as I can tell there is fuck all to be done here. It's safe to say Lightning Lord didn't mean "refuse to engage in discussions" as in "you are compelled to respond for every link and tweet you submit" or whatever the case. It is unnecessary to do something about users that only tweet and shit. That ought to be fine. More precisely I think of it as "choosing not to engage while displaying antagonistic behavior". There's the rub. Don't go to a thread to break up the circle jerk, solely to stir up shit nagging the whole time. Effectively antagonizing as you did in the gun thread. You went to troll, pick a fight, lambast, however you see it. Your excuses are irrelevant. We all like to debate, that is part and parcel of any topic. Keep repeating yourself though and people while shit all over you and yes, if you don't cool down you will be dealt with. It is up to you.

An evenhanded approach is required at times. It is true that majority opinion users are also guilty of bait posts, spamming and whatnot. Everybody does it, so fucking what. Look at brando still suffering from a chronic congestion of sand in his vagina. Regarding spam, get rid of that shit. There is no problem with the speed at which the thread moves. None at all.

As for Tolan, Scream, Lend et al.
I honestly believe Xeq gets a bad rep. He reminds me of chaos before the election. It's not that he's disingenuous (usually), it's that he vastly underplays the issues we point out, while vastly over selling the issues that are counter to that. He also has a tendency to latch onto one or two points and argue those into the ground without taking in the full context of the issue at hand (much like chaos did), specifically when a couple of the resident shitposters post that we should just kill illegal immigrants, xeq will then spend the next couple hours about how much this "conservative forum" advocates for "genocide".

Scream just comes in waves, I've said it many times in the political thread, it just truly amazes me how easily he pulls people into his troll sessions, and beyond that it's staggering how long he pulls them off sometimes. Several times I've checked the politics thread from work, came home, went to sleep, and catch up the next day and the last 24+ hours has been a non stop post session from Scream pulling people into his argument. It's impressive in a way, mostly annoying, but impressive. Beyond that, outside of political threads, I personally find Scream very entertaining.

Lend has basically the same shtick as he's always had, pretend to have a limited grasp of english while also pretending to have a larger understanding of US law/The Constitution/whatever than he actually does. It kinda reminds me of what snopes has turned into when it comes to politics.

Tolan, Fuck this racist commie, bitch ass should've been banned a long time ago.
Agreed. Scream is a fuckwad with a healthy sense of of humor, Lend is alright too, Xeq at least is genuine, Tolan is utterly oblivious. He is likely legitimately retarded but one answer is simpler than the ignore feature.

If y'all hate these pricks so much, how about scrolling past them. Problem solved. Bunch of whiny homosexuals.
 

Tolan

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I've never browsed General often. I will check those threads for a couple of days and forget about them for months. But I'm familiar enough to know the personalities that hang around that corner of the board. Wanted to address the following here since it relates to the question of pol thread content control

Don't get why these types are so incurably butthurt. If you hate it here then why keep visiting.

Far as I can tell there is fuck all to be done here. It's safe to say Lightning Lord didn't mean "refuse to engage in discussions" as in "you are compelled to respond for every link and tweet you submit" or whatever the case. It is unnecessary to do something about users that only tweet and shit. That ought to be fine. More precisely I think of it as "choosing not to engage while displaying antagonistic behavior". There's the rub. Don't go to a thread to break up the circle jerk, solely to stir up shit nagging the whole time. Effectively antagonizing as you did in the gun thread. You went to troll, pick a fight, lambast, however you see it. Your excuses are irrelevant. We all like to debate, that is part and parcel of any topic. Keep repeating yourself though and people while shit all over you and yes, if you don't cool down you will be dealt with. It is up to you.

An evenhanded approach is required at times. It is true that majority opinion users are also guilty of bait posts, spamming and whatnot. Everybody does it, so fucking what. Look at brando still suffering from a chronic congestion of sand in his vagina. Regarding spam, get rid of that shit. There is no problem with the speed at which the thread moves. None at all.

As for Tolan, Scream, Lend et al.

Agreed. Scream is a fuckwad with a healthy sense of of humor, Lend is alright too, Xeq at least is genuine, Tolan is utterly oblivious. He is likely legitimately retarded but one answer is simpler than the ignore feature.

If y'all hate these pricks so much, how about scrolling past them. Problem solved. Bunch of whiny homosexuals.
Superficial analysis. Not much thought put into it before you typed it all out. Grade: D+
 

Feanor

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Yep. I wrote that quickly and hope for your sake you don't think too hard when typing. But hey you strung two sentences together! Attaboy, Tolan Tolan . Who's a good boy?
 
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Hello everyone Tiggles here,

I recently was given a one week shaw for not being as anti-semitic as I should of been, I recognize this now and will work to improve this in the future.

Before my temporary suspension I was working on a project and following Araysar Araysar 's suggestion I am now making a post. I am posting this in General as opposed to suggestions as this affects mainly the general posting populace.

Currently the Politics Thread is moving too fast for an average user to keep up and discussion on topics is stimed by frequent derails and trolls. Real discourse has been stamped out by a fast moving stream of thought style of posting that favors tweet and article links without discussion and short blunt replies.

I am proposing an experiment a week long thread ban of the following users @Screamfeeder @Lendarios @Xequecal Tolan Tolan from the politics channel. Our forum is based on the right to free speech and it is one of the last free speech zones on the internet this is something I am very proud of and I commend @suineg for keeping the good with the bad.

If i am pro free speech why am I asking for a thread ban of our "usual suspects" of left leaning posters? Because I am not censoring political opinions I am attempting to censor spam and forum slide.

It is my hypothesis that the above mentioned posters outside of any political leaning are having a negative effect on the politic thread through typical troll tactics and derails. I set out to prove this during my one week ban and I began to record posting habits.

@Lendarios @Xequecal and Tolan Tolan are neck and neck with each other with 47, 45 and 40 posts in a one week period in the politic channel with @Screamfeeder being a more of a drunken spree poster clocking in a miserable 5. The total amount of posts in my week absence was approx 2,000.

137 posts between 4 users in a sea of 2,000 is a drop in a bucket, that's 6.85% combined, it's insignificant.

I knew this number would be low as all four members are known "Parachute posters" coming in dropping a statement or link then vanishing until the next attempt. My main interest was the amount of replies a post from the mentioned users generates and this is where I was surprised. The average @Lendarios @Xequecal and Tolan Tolan post has an average reply count of 5, this includes quotes and sub quotes.

Something as innocuous as calling Tolan a Retard or long diatribes quoting something Xequecal said averages 5 insults or counter posts pertaining to the new topic post. I am not including posts made by users that are sharing the current topic. This force multiplier turns the 6.85% into a massive 34.25% of posts being posts or replies to the same four users.

In the past we have thread banned each one of these four individuals but you can see now how this in ineffective as the "reply force multiplier" can shift easily to one member to another. Consider the four posters as one entity if one is still around then they can and will (As a thread ban on a comrade will incite them to post more) disrupt the politic thread.

I propose that effective tomorrow Monday the 18th until the following Monday the 25th the four subjects get threadbans at the same time, We then monitor the flow of the thread and the discussions that happen. If the thread still has the same issues of lack of discussion and frequent derails then we unban them because they are just a part of a failed system but if the situation improves then we make the ban permanent.

Thank you for your time.

Another stupid american that doesn't understand that free speech only applies to you and the government. I'm a fucking English man that understands your 1st amendment better than you do.
 
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Tiggles

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Another stupid american that doesn't understand that free speech only applies to you and the government. I'm a fucking English man that understands your 1st amendment better than you do.
You also spend real life money on dead Russian MMOs because your a faggot and should be euthenized.

Also your country is a Muslim shithole and I'm allowed to own a potato peeler with out a liscense you queer.
 
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Tolan

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You also spend real life money on dead Russian MMOs because your a faggot and should be euthenized.

Also your country is a Muslim shithole and I'm allowed to own a potato peeler with out a liscense you queer.
You’re*
 
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