Puzzles and Dragons

Grimmlokk_sl said:

Speaking of masks, I think you Shiva haters are crazy people. Unless you are rocking multiple poisoners or a whole squad of lower turn orb changers I don't think you are going any faster. Not even sure if you are then. Shiva you stall 22 turns off the bat and finish the whole thing in 27, usually less since you tend to creep in to the 2nd round before the timer is up.

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I think this is one of the better examples of stat creep. If you are in there with a 20k+ hp team, and you get two masks on the same timer and can't kill them both in time - so what ?

Plus, shiva sucks at the friday dungeon unless you go mono-red because the lits are too damn weak, too easy to wipe them all.

Fazana_sl said:

I've barely played lately, my team just wasn't up to doing any of the special stuff and that killed my motivation almost stone dead. It's not like I haven't got shit to be getting on with but unless I get a lucky drop from the rare egg roll it looks like I've hit a bit of a glass ceiling. I've been playing Defender of Texel and Book Of Heroes instead but I think it's time I dragged my arse back into this and tried to level up my Shiva/ADK/Dual Neptune etc to a decent level.

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With the new starter dragon busty evo anyone should be able to get a non glass ceiling team...

Red and black teams being the easiest as the heart to orb changer is farmable, but using a busty starter dragon you can make farm a pretty functional team.

Again, if anyone is interested, I have an AO account that has a bunch of key team parts already on it just sitting there going unplayed... Even my secondary Gvalk account is starting to collect dust as my main account has a Gvalk now as well...

Yeah anyone can make any color team now with the new starters. The starter 2X ATK 2X RCV combined with the greek gods 2X HP 2X ATK makes for a 2X4X2X team that can do anything. I was looking at all the various possibilities and ranked how good a mono team you could make - this team might be pretty biased as I mostly have the fire & light teams, but I think it's pretty close to true:

#1 Blue - This team really has everything, if you have Neptune (poison), Viper Orochi (Delay), Siren (Hearts), plus a couple orb changers, and some awesome subs. However, it's hella hard to assemble.
#2 Green - Parv is an heart maker, Susano active is nice, ADK has been the easiest knight to skill up so far, and some nice subs too.
#3 Dark - Pretty easy to assemble, vampire very easy to skill up, good subs in Hera & Hades (gravity), Lillith (poison) - this team can't get a 2x hp 4x atk 2x rcv, the best you can do is 1.5x hp 3x atk 3x rcv.
#4 (Maybe tied for #3?) Fire - Also pretty easy to assemble, has Enchid for delay, Shiva active, no poison or gravity though. Titan is very easy to farm & skill up, but his final evolution has NEGATIVE RCV, overall really bad RCV and no heart maker.
#5 Light - Like Dark you can't get the 2x 4x 2x team, no poison, no delay, no heart maker. You have good subs in Indra or Zeus. Easily the most difficult to level up too.
Edit: Light might be much better off just going double Zeus and blitzing all down - of course you'd have no HP / RCV modifier, I dunno.

Fazana_sl said:

Is that true though? Going to a 4x mono red team etc is going to give you the beef to get real stuff done, not the stuff we have now but the kind of thing we saw last week?

Almost every "guide" I saw last week for any of the dungeons involved egyptian gods or odins etc, I didn't see any that suggested you could get shit done with a beefed up T-Rex. Hell even the lowest of rent teams had an Ama in it, if you don't have one of those (and I've thrown tons of stones at yellow bonus times without getting an Ama or Valk) and "just" a shitey STE then doh!

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Most of the people I saw blowing through two heroes, or legend ancient fire dragon, were using mono green or blue teams. Hera and Zeus might require something more specialized, and I don't know much about Valk.

Ao-_sl said:

Think double hp/double attack with double attack double rcv is a pretty great team once you power it up. Just need an Ares friend, right?

edit: and that's why you have to hit refresh before posting...


Following what Thengel said: I really want to make a mono blue team. I've got the hermes lead already, and a TWINS friend for the ally. Just time to fill out my berzerks and golem level and try to get neptune/orochi.

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Yeah I'm in the same boat on blue. I have TWINS, so we can be friends! But I have no neptune or orochi, or berzerk... I do have ARES though, so if anyone wants to beef up a TRex or Freyr and be my friend, we can hang out.

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#6, WTF? I play this game to much, I don't remember anything puzzle-wise before last weekend, its just a blur of gems.

Wow, that's an awful lot of information that I doubt ANYONE would have handy, especially if their account was just deleted.

Finally got Ardbeg. Fuck a bunch of 3 hour long 2x resist boss fights.

why people dont make backups of their data048 file confuses me...

As for the needing an Amaterasu to get through dungeons... its not a requirement... its just if you prefer the mindless autohealing gamestyle, its a sure thing.

For instance... I beat two heros using one stone on my alt account that was Double Horus + 4 random colors and less than 9000 hp... That team could probably beat zues with 15 stones. I also beat hera using a gvalk zombie team (had to manually heal every turn on hera, which sucked)

But yes, if you have NOTHING from the REM you can still beat all available content with similar amounts of stones if you FARM the right stuff...

For example... red team:
Red Busty Starter
Echidna (max evolve)
Echidna (max evolve)
Titan (evolved gigas with max skill)
Whatever other red thing you got (preferably NOT a ripper, hopefully a mystic flame knight)
Freyr, Ares, Shiva, Or at worst Noel Dragon.

This allows you to beat... most dungeons with 0 stones... no poison ability so armor gimicks will suck for you, double delay is beastly and echidna has high rcv which is usually a red weak point. Gigas has lots of HP and a decent attack...

Uhh.... you have a black team and are complaining about HP?

Rainbow Keeper, EASILY farmable at 30sta per dungeon every tuesday...
3126 hp, 1056atk, 157 RCV. with a 50% dmg for 3 turns skill..
Its the reason why dark teams do not get a 2x hp modifier... oh and he requires no XP to lvl up

So lets go for your all easy to farm no REM team.

Dark busty starter @ 50 (reasonable amount of XP) on 1.5m XP curve
HP: 1500
ATK: 800
RCV: 150

2X Rainbow Keepers
HP: 6252
ATK: 2112
RCV: 314

Lilith:
HP: 900
Atk: 850
RCV: 540

Duke Vampire Lord @30
HP: 2000
ATK: 1020
RCV: 309

Using Persephone (no stats available)

You are at 16000+HP, 14000+atk, 4000+RCV + poison utility. Swap out the poison if you need to buff your HP to over 20,000, but your RCV goes down alot.

I am still not exactly sure what you are powergaming... or want to powergame. There is very little content available and its beatable by completely NO IAP players...

I am also not sure what you have thats a DPSer in black thats much better than 1000attk...

CDK for more orb switching (but thats a REM drop). Hera? But thats lower HP and attack until way late in evolution (though ultra gravity maybe worth it..) Vritra... after lots of levelling and evo...


Black team is ultra easy to start and be VERY viable because of Rainbow Keepers... its also why you get shit on with few HP Mods...

Cutlery_sl said:

This is mostly pie in the sky kinda shit. Go down the teams..if you don't get the right mix of rare egg pulls, you don't have fuck all. Does neptune drop anywhere? How about viper orochi? Parvati? Susano? Hera does, does Hades? What about Shiva? I'd like to remind you that may last 6 rare egg pulls during a greek godfest yielded me 6 fuck all monsters, so I'm basically done pulling that lever. 25 more box slots is infinitely more useful to me than another fucking Hades is.

I've got a dark team, that's great. Unfortunately, I've got 7500 hp with it, and 1.5x HP from Persephone isn't gonna be enough to get me anywhere. I'm gonna be using rainbow keepers in that team instead of actual DPS for a long time to come because I still get one rounded outta the blue occasionally. I think this game is a fun little time waster, but unless there's a more reliable means of getting what you need to build a team (some kind of rare egg shop or some shit...pay your money and take your chances, or pay 4x the stones and get what you want), it's never going to be something I powergame on.

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Agreed completely. You can build a pretty decent team out of stuff you can just farm and your one or two decent pulls. A dark team with starter dragon maxed, a vamp, CDK, lillith, rainbow keeper, and a persephone friend would be pretty solid. Low HP like you said though. Fire you could do something similar and get higher HP, but crappy RCV. Blue/Green are better, but harder, as I said. Mostly because berzerk / highlander are much tougher to get than titan / vampire.

However, you are never getting the dream teams without just plain old getting lucky yanking the dragon arm. And let's face it, the dragon arm hates some of us. I have pulled maybe 5 gods out of I don't fucking know how many pulls - a lot. Oh yeah, of course they are all different colors and would never go on a team together.

Biggest complaint in this game honestly is the lack of stuff you can actually farm. How many boss toydragons have I fought in the normal and tech dungeons, yet the only way to get these pieces of shit is from a rare pull, and then you still feel like you failed because you didn't get Parvati? That's some garbage, make these dudes drop.

Or put them on the PAL machine

Rippers, ToyDragons, and Orb Changers should be at Pal Machine... Keep them in their current places as well, but remove them from REM, add them to PAL!

Anyway... bed time for me. Thanks for putting up your anubis thengel


LOL 12m download event for JP server... this shit does not stop...

Another god fest... skillup events... drops increased, yadayada yada. Pulled a Devil Baal (dark light dual color... not very good)