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Just made my first RE investment in years and it's largest yet. I have avoided residential over my career partly because the more affordable investments at the time are just not the class property I wanted to own and I don't want to be dealing with day to day managing of renters and I didn't have the capital for a property where management could be taken off the plate. The office market holds no interest for me anymore as we are so over built at least in my neck of the woods. So long story short I made an investment I couldn't have done myself so went in as a partial owner of a pretty large complex.

Been a hard decision as this investment will now matter to my future rather substantially , I wanted to make a move that I could stick with for a long time maybe even never sell it and leave to my estate.

Equities have been great for me but they are also rather tax inefficient and subject too much to my meddling. With RE I can be much more long term. As I ran the numbers on this investment it becomes very clear that with large properties like this more of the investment success is tilted to asset value accretion than to operating income. Not that operating income doesn't matter but how I feel about it 10 years from now is going to be almost entirely driven by asset value or the dollars lack there of.

As many know I have a large aversion to borrowing/leverage the big step of this by having a managing partner is for me to be comfortable with using debt at arms length rather than me borrowing personally. This deal is 70% LTV but I'm not going to be stressing over the mortgage payment.

Its over 250 units and is about a decade old, higher end of the market for the area about $1600-1700/mo rents and 95+% occupied.
 
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Just made my first RE investment in years and it's largest yet. I have avoided residential over my career partly because the more affordable investments at the time are just not the class property I wanted to own and I don't want to be dealing with day to day managing of renters and I didn't have the capital for a property where management could be taken off the plate. The office market holds no interest for me anymore as we are so over built at least in my neck of the woods. So long story short I made an investment I couldn't have done myself so went in as a partial owner of a pretty large complex.

Been a hard decision as this investment will now matter to my future rather substantially , I wanted to make a move that I could stick with for a long time maybe even never sell it and leave to my estate.

Equities have been great for me but they are also rather tax inefficient and subject too much to my meddling. With RE I can be much more long term. As I ran the numbers on this investment it becomes very clear that with large properties like this more of the investment success is tilted to asset value accretion than to operating income. Not that operating income doesn't matter but how I feel about it 10 years from now is going to be almost entirely driven by asset value or the dollars lack there of.

As many know I have a large aversion to borrowing/leverage the big step of this by having a managing partner is for me to be comfortable with using debt at arms length rather than me borrowing personally. This deal is 70% LTV but I'm not going to be stressing over the mortgage payment.

Its over 250 units and is about a decade old, higher end of the market for the area about $1600-1700/mo rents and 95+% occupied

why not commercial property? As a leasee of a number of spaces both retail and warehouse it always seemed like it had a ton of upside with NNN being pretty much universal now
 

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why not commercial property? As a leasee of a number of spaces both retail and warehouse it always seemed like it had a ton of upside with NNN being pretty much universal now
Just nothing that has caught my eye as of late, in my area the market has strongly moved to warehousing and on a very large scale, million sq ft and up stuff. In addition, the properties I can afford expose me to a lot of single tenant/few tenant risk that makes it less appealing. I've been quite bummed about the warehouse I sold, property was very good to me and I made a mistake letting it go. (I only did because I thought I was going to be moving and didn't want to manage a property from thousands of miles away, then I ended up not leaving)