Should you tip the waitress and how much thread

Tip the waitress what ever you damn well feel like. FUCK , seriously, how hard should I hi five my mail man when he fence kicks me neighbors pit bull.
Fuck off you hipsters talking about tips.

FOH would have waitresses showing their tits for tips........ as it should be.....

Chysamere_sl said:

No, I never tip, because in my countries (Australia and Japan) a tip is always refused, and usually considered insulting. We pay our servers and delivery people minimum wage, which is around $10-15 an hour

Service certainly doesn't suffer, especially in Japan

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in fairness many high end restaurants in Japan have a gratuity automatically added to the bill, it's there if you read the receipt. but almost everywhere else that westerns would tip Japanese dont, and if they do, it's leaving the coins that come back as change. all service industries in Japan are crazy competitive, they try harder than anywhere to give you excellent service.

LadyVex_sl said:

Food sitting in the pass for fucking ever has happened at every restaurant I've worked at, and never because the server is busy. 9/10 times the server went for a 20 minute smoke break, or sat behind the bar talking to the bartender etc.

I'm hoping that my experiences with servers were just an isolated bad crop because man, I seriously have no respect or sympathy for any of them.

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no it isn't an isolated incident. When i was a cook it happened all the time. and when they finally came and got the food and the customer complained it was us in the kitchen who got the blame from the servers and management even though we called out to the server multiple times. it seemed like almost every time management took the side of the servers over the kitchen when it was obviously the servers fault.

i usually do 15-20%. if the service is really fucking exceptional ill go up to 30, if its terrible its 10% or nada. on drinks my standard is a buck a drink. if its a bar i frequented and the bartender knows me. ill pay for my drinks and drop a five or ten spot when i leave. even if i only had 3 drinks. a good bartender is worth rewarding.

i see we have people here who have waited. who are the worst/best tippers? i have always heard that minorities never tip shit and drunk people practically hand you their wallets.

It makes no sense to me, cooks are doing a respectable job, whereas servers are pretty bottom of the barrel / unskilled. I'd much rather see most of my tip money going to the cooks.

This is what happens when servers fuck up:

"Oh my, I am sorry to hear your steak is the wrong temperature. The cooks are a little backed up so they might have given me the wrong steak. I'll go check it for you!" Instead of what should be "Yeah I am a moron who doesn't know that when someone describes mid rare to me it doesn't mean bring them a medium well steak even if they say the words medium well" because the kitchen? Is out of sight. So it is easy to blame. Server fucks up? Blame the kitchen. Cook fucks up? Blame the kitchen. Taking the blame for a mistake isn't very American and it tends to get tossed on the people actually doing the work.

I have zero sympathy for servers of any type in any situation. Their work is retard-easy and pays substantially better than it should. And that includes the guys getting bent over the barrel with the 2.14 minimum wage or whatever. If it wasn't easy money, they wouldn't do it. It's incredibly good money for very little work, no actual skills beyond a smile (and in most cases tits) and the ability to write down what people tell you. The US culture has decried that we owe people something for doing a task they are already paid for. In Cali, if they don't make any tips, they still get minimum wage. Which is honestly too much for what the average server does. 20% is ridiculous unless they literally make your night better on all accounts. If they are just smiling and refilling your water? They have earned their 8 an hour and not a cent more.

Managing servers has destroyed any empathy I accidentally felt for them =|

I still don't understand why tipping is considered a "must"... I don't get tips for doing my job well... i get payed and i get to keep my job...
Why the fuck should you get a "bonus" for just doing your job ? Being nice, polite, paying attention to my needs, and bringing me food IS your job... all of it.

Now i know most of these jobs have a shitty pay, so the tips are supposed to compensate, but doesn't that "known compensation" in a way, lead to shitty paychecks ?
Yes it's a result based incentive for better service, but on a bad week or a bad day, you're fucked and wont be making a dime (kinda disheartening & stressful).

"Keep the change" ? why not if it's around 5% (18.75? for a 20? bill) and the service was "friendly".
"Many of us" Well 1-1.5? per person is more than enough, and again only if the service was "friendly".

More ? Well if it was "exceptional" possibly, but 20% standard ? no fucking way.

PS : I've lived only in Greece & France, i think the tipping mentality depends on the country/society.

I usually tip $100. If she isn't scarred or bruised I tip her pimp too.

You guys must be working for low end restaurants, like super low end (IHOP or some such). We never had food sitting on the line, because we had food runners during peak hours, and we had a food line manager barking at the cooks, runners, and waiters to get the food plated correctly, make sure the food was cooked to what was punched in by the waiter, make sure the food left the line hot.

But yeah, as a waiter, IF you we're good, you made ABSOLUTELY sure the cooks had you in their good graces. Any restaurant I worked for, I immediately worked on my relationship with the cooks.

I like how everyone is bitching about how they shouldn't have to tip and it should be factored in to the menu prices. Next time you go out to eat tell the managers that everything you ordered was ~15% too cheap and they need to raise their prices or else you'll find a new establishment to dine at.

As someone brought out earlier in this thread, imagine they did do away with tips and just paid these servers a wage. If you think service is bad now it would be way worse if they didn't have to kiss ass for a tip. And to those who think serving is easy. maybe in a low volume establishment, not where I worked at it's a workout. We had servers track how far they walk in a shift, (granted the restaurant was huge), some were walking 7-8 miles in a shift, more if they pulled a double. Yes I know it's not rocket science, but I'm willing to bet half the people on here would drop on a high volume night.

You're essentially going to pay the same either way. In a tipping culture you have the option of applying a discount for shitty service or a premium for excellent service. Obviously the system can be abused and those who abuse it are jewbag faggots. The end.

in the old days they used to have those automats where they cooked the food and put that shit to warm in a window and you put your money in the thingy. opened the window and took your meal to your table on your own. no need to tip anyone and the meal was cheap because they didnt have a perky chick with perky tits mugging you with a perky smile expecting some alms for her efforts. i appreciate the effort and tip accordingly because im not a cheap jew and i want to go back there and not have to worry that they are spitting on my food because they remember me.

Wizardhawk_sl said:

How much exactly do you think servers make compared to other jobs? At the restaurant i'm in now the servers make in 4 shifts what I make in 12 cooking. At the place I was before, I know at least a few of the servers hit the $30-40k range, I pulled in a whopping $19000 cooking. When I was in management at a gas station/convenient store I made about $21000 but that was a lot of overtime. Servers who aren't complete retards make a decent living compared to a lot of people. The ones who are retards not so much (usually the ones getting fired every 2 weeks).

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Full time servers at a casual dinning place are going to be pulling in 18-28k here. Yeah at a nice place a server can easily be pulling in 40-50k, but like I said fine dining is a different beast. I don't know what to tell you about your shit salary. I made 22k a year as a cook part time (30 hours) in high school. Cooking sucks because of bitchy servers and shit hours. 20k back of house is the bare minimum and that's for entry level shit.