Spider-Noir

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Saw the whole thing.
I LOVED the concept. I liked the black and white (yup-- I was that guy. It is NOIR).

Here's what I did not like-- TOO LONG for the story (if it really had one-- it was a pastiche of ideas thrown together).

I LOVED Li Jun Li (and that there was probably more time spent on her hairstyle than on Nick Cage's costuming).

I watched it in black and white. They made it in black and white and titled it "noir."

BUT; noir? Noir is a storytelling style of compression, not expansion. And boy oh boy did this tale expand. So much so that it was all over the place with detective stories, femme fatales, gangstas, German mad scientists, "Heroes" leftovers from the 2000s, angry black men, "tolerance" of fat people in a depression economy.

The plus? They didn't over-emphasize the origin stor(ies) and the crazy idea of it all.

I thought it was too much "thrown at the wall" paced poorly. I still love the most basic/kernel concept and would be up for a trimmed down season 2 with MORE "noir" elements. Do that right and it will be A+.

As it was, it was kind of plodding, with too many pacing problems (and identity issues). The thing is, the characters in noir are "black and white" as well-- they usually do not have endless emotional depth to drag them down.

It was okay, but left me feeling sad, not psyched. It felt like twenty or thirty half-fleshed out "cool ideas."

But I did like Ben, Cat and Janet, but they were neither deep characters nor good caricatures.

I hope they try a meticulous season 2.
 
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finished it off, it was ok nothing amazing but not really bad either. pretty predictable, the supe stuff was pretty low key and tame. i'm glad I watched it in color, a lot of the outfits and locations really popped and the show didn't feel like a noir half the time, more like a CW DC show.

Didn't hate it but nothing really special here, there's no cliff hangers or anything, pretty much every story line wraps up neatly.

I think they spent $400m on this though which is insane, and I wonder if amazon will have the stomach to fund another season.
400M? I'd be surprised if the renew it.
 
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Valderen

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I just finished watching this last night, I watched it in black and white.

I enjoyed it, don't feel like I wasted my time. It was different for sure but enjoyable.

It's not a masterpiece or anything, but there's nothing offensive about it.

I'd watch another season if they ever make one.
 
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Phazael

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Was not perfect, but no woke bullshit (the comments about Harlem fit the period and was not pounded on) and the show just felt good and fun. Nice to see Andrew Robinson getting work still. But the show lives and dies on Nick Cage.
 

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The wife and I finished this tonight, we've been trying to stretch out series so we have something to watch.

We also did the B&W run on it and I thought it looked great. During it I did wonder how they "pulled off color" since I remember learning a long time ago about the "everything is brown, green, or pink because those colors showed as the right shades of gray on black and white film" part but mentally discounted it to "They probably filmed it all digitally."

I got the feeling this was a lot of Nic Cage getting to just be "funky Nic Cage" and it ended up working very well for me. The story was moderately predictable, only real surprise to me was discovering the Dr lady's real intention. I thought their Electro was kinda grating though. If you're going to go melodramatic over the top over-actor then doing the Noir version of Mysterio. (Maybe make him a "famous illusionist from England" or something.

Loved that the whole season stood as a nicely wrapped single story arc. I'd love to see a season 2, but also wonder what proper story they could pull off for it.
 

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The wife and I finished this tonight, we've been trying to stretch out series so we have something to watch.

We also did the B&W run on it and I thought it looked great. During it I did wonder how they "pulled off color" since I remember learning a long time ago about the "everything is brown, green, or pink because those colors showed as the right shades of gray on black and white film" part but mentally discounted it to "They probably filmed it all digitally."

I got the feeling this was a lot of Nic Cage getting to just be "funky Nic Cage" and it ended up working very well for me. The story was moderately predictable, only real surprise to me was discovering the Dr lady's real intention. I thought their Electro was kinda grating though. If you're going to go melodramatic over the top over-actor then doing the Noir version of Mysterio. (Maybe make him a "famous illusionist from England" or something.

Loved that the whole season stood as a nicely wraperped single story arc. I'd love to see a season 2, but also wonder what proper story they could pull off for it.
It's just filters today. No need for pinks and greens to get the appropriate shades. Just slap a digital filter on it and call it a day. Though, Hollywood probably paid 30k for the b&w filter.