spinnaker
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Star Trek: Discovery
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If I were a Star Trek captain, my first orders would be "Fuck being a sitting duck, we're moving to the battle bridge"
Malakriss
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About the same as successfully navigating an asteroid field. Because apparently every single pilot in every fictional universe can do it.
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Asteroid_belt
I am sad to say I have my own reference material
I never know what to ask for when Christmas comes around so that's how I wound up with the Haynes manual, and I believe the DS9 was a thank you from a friend who I had pestered into watching the series. It's not that I don't know where it came from, it just that I introduced that person to the the insanity that is Christmas at a video game store and you never quite forgive a person for that, I also left this DVD at his house which is an unforgivable sin. When I say "left" I actually mean repeatedly tried hide on his bookshelf even under the threat of physical violence. I think he must like it now and he informed me it was the only movie he still owns.
I was using the deep space nine one to build a Defiant in Minecraft at this airship port I had built, I believe that map is toast but the new server I am playing on has much better mods if I ever decide to pursue that again, there is a lot more futuristic looking stuff.
Shonuff
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In one of those books I found the only argument I need to make for DS9 being the best Trek yet.
I don't recall seeing this outside of the reference material but it is this attention to detail that made the show great.
I don't recall seeing this outside of the reference material but it is this attention to detail that made the show great.
pysek
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The other thing that made the show great was the allowance for foibles and conflict, even among the supposed heroes, and the time taken to let characters have a full, satisfying, multi-year arc that none of the other Star Trek series seemed to be allowed to have. DS9 only benefited by its' status as the black sheep of Treks and the one Berman seemed to stay the farthest away from.
Seeing that picture and the reference to the Borg just annoyed me again that they blew up the Defiant against the Borg just as a plot device to get Worf aboard the Enterprise in First Contact.
I haven't seen that in years and it was before I got into DS9, I didn't remember how Worf got there at all.Now I am annoyed as well.
90's was fucking awesome, we had Ninja Turtles, neon shirts, pubic hair, X-files, Monica Lewinsky, Cowboy Beebop, and we smoked weed, not meth.
Siliconemelons
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I belive the defiant was build and designed for the war with the borg, but it was resolved before it was complete- it was then used in DS9-- and in First Contact the Enterprise shows up almost at the end, if they didnt show up it only would have taken a few more moments for the borg to sweep up the remaining ships- yet the defiant was there from the begining to end and still was salvagable, and imo it showed how badass worf was and how even after everything the federation has gone through they dont produce any fighter captiants etc
pysek
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I had a mullet in the early 90's that I labeled the Pussy Destroyer. It wasn't.
Haka
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That didn't happen.
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/USS_Defiant_%282370%29
Under the command of Worf, the Defiant participated in the Battle of Sector 001 in mid-2373. The Defiant assaulted the invading Borg cube from the Typhon sector to Earth and took severe damage. As Worf was about to order the ship to ram the cube, the USS Enterprise-E rescued the vessel's survivors. The Defiant and Enterprise crews followed a Borg sphere to 2063 shortly after the cube's destruction to stop the Borg from sabotaging Zefram Cochrane's first warp flight. Following these events, the Defiant was repaired and returned to DS9. (Star Trek: First Contact; DS9: "In Purgatory's Shadow")
I believe there was talk of it maybe being blown up but then they decided needlessly destroying it made no sense, especially when ds9 was still on the air.
Anyways, most ships were destroyed. If anything, the fact that it survived was a testament to it's ability.
They didn't get a chance to blow up THAT ship in Generations (even if it didn't happen). Season 7 episode 20, the Breen absolutely dismantle the Defiant, it wasn't even close in that battle; the Defiant flies point and catches the first shots fired leaving it a sitting duck. The Defiant in Generations was the USS Sao Paulo, renamed Defiant when command was transferred to Sisko.
Negative sir, First Contact (not Generations) takes place in late 2373, about a month before the Second Battle of DS9 and the beginning of the Dominion War. Probably explains why the Defiant had to turn and run with Sisko aboard.
spinnaker
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Fair enough, I stand corrected. My memory is obviously shockingly poor >.<
Its destruction in DS9 was done well though, the Breen needed to be established as tough motherfuckers for them to be taken seriously and mission accomplished. Presumably they were drawn into the fight via the same sort of shenanigans as how the Klingons were made to attack the federation, wasn't there a Breen on the prison station along with Worf, Bashir and Martok?
Aww fuck it, time to schedule a Netflix rewatch of seasons 4 through 7!
Its destruction in DS9 was done well though, the Breen needed to be established as tough motherfuckers for them to be taken seriously and mission accomplished. Presumably they were drawn into the fight via the same sort of shenanigans as how the Klingons were made to attack the federation, wasn't there a Breen on the prison station along with Worf, Bashir and Martok?
Aww fuck it, time to schedule a Netflix rewatch of seasons 4 through 7!
Gavinmad
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The plot device was bigger than that, Only the Klingon ships could withstand the weapon's shots, when chancellor Gawron brought his petty shit to DS9 and the battles front he started wasting ships and ruining any chance to actually win the war just to humiliate Martok. Sisko needed those ships holding the line so he basically put the idea into Worf's head that Gawron must die, he didn't say that but by this point in the show he knows how Klingon politics works.