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Steam deck portable handheld gaming PC from Valve
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I mean I know it’s fast/good, but I legit don’t know how it measures up to the 5000 gen, nor any AMD stuff. Was just curious which cards have it beat at this point, and by how much.
I do not pay any attention to pc hardware. I bought it in 2023, surely there are better cards by now? Just wondered how far behind it was at this point.
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It wasn't really double the performance. And the point is the form factor and quality of life.
The important innovation is Steam OS itself, enabling people to just do it on their own.
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It should have been marketed as such without all the extra hardware bullshit and speculation cycle.
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They still need to benchmark if steamos is actually better than different Linux versions for gaming though. I am not sold on it yet.
Haven't looked into it, but assume their mobo/gfx are engineered in house from the size. Unless they are just tied to laptop versions?
The steam machine is already lagging behind now, and expensive for what it is. But as the guy Linus was with mentioned, prior to the recent rise in costs, it was planned for $800. Which would probably be much harder to match since the machine Linus built didn't really have parts that could be lowered in cost other than the graphics card, and lowering the cost of that with $200 wouldn't get you a card that could compete.
How easily can the steam machine swap out their parts? Not talking about the things the consumers can change, but Steam changing the MOBO and graphics card.
When the inevitable PS6 hits the market (maybe even next year?) there is no way it will be $1000. Probably in the 6-800 range. But it will also most likely be more powerful than the steam machine. While the Steam machine can play all PC games, any game that is multi platform and on the PS6 as well, the Steam machine will fall way behind.
So just curious as to how quickly Steam can alter their machine. Though another issue with that, how would customers react to a new upgraded version coming out so "soon" with no way to upgrade theirs to match (since that would require a change of mobo/gfx)? If Sony released a PS6, then a PS6 pro a year later people would lose their minds.
The steam machine is already lagging behind now, and expensive for what it is. But as the guy Linus was with mentioned, prior to the recent rise in costs, it was planned for $800. Which would probably be much harder to match since the machine Linus built didn't really have parts that could be lowered in cost other than the graphics card, and lowering the cost of that with $200 wouldn't get you a card that could compete.
How easily can the steam machine swap out their parts? Not talking about the things the consumers can change, but Steam changing the MOBO and graphics card.
When the inevitable PS6 hits the market (maybe even next year?) there is no way it will be $1000. Probably in the 6-800 range. But it will also most likely be more powerful than the steam machine. While the Steam machine can play all PC games, any game that is multi platform and on the PS6 as well, the Steam machine will fall way behind.
So just curious as to how quickly Steam can alter their machine. Though another issue with that, how would customers react to a new upgraded version coming out so "soon" with no way to upgrade theirs to match (since that would require a change of mobo/gfx)? If Sony released a PS6, then a PS6 pro a year later people would lose their minds.
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I think you’re kidding yourself that the ps6 won’t be $1000 or close enough to it. The ps5 pro is $900, they’re going to release something significant enough to beat that machine for $600-800? I don’t see how that’s possible with today’s fuck you hardware prices.
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Quality of life in... the form factor?! I'm not sure how much my quality of life is affected by the case I choose to house my computer components.
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Form factor AND Quality of life. Quality of life being things like HDMI CEC, being able to control everything from the box. That's not something you emulate by hooking up a PC, it takes dedicated hardware and a lot of it is unreliable. The size and lack of noise of the form factor definitely do have some quality of life as well.
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https://videocardz.com/newz/valve-quietly-changes-steam-machine-4k-claim-4k-60-fps-becomes-up-to-4k
"Valve has changed the wording on the Steam Machine hardware page. The CPU & GPU section no longer says “4K gaming at 60 FPS with FSR.” It now says “Up to 4K gaming with FSR 4.1.”
"Steam Machine uses a semi-custom AMD Zen 4 CPU and a semi-custom RDNA 3 GPU with 28 Compute Units. The GPU includes 8GB of GDDR6 memory, while the system uses 16GB of DDR5 memory. Valve previously said internal testing showed most Steam titles running at 4K 60 FPS with FSR, though some games needed heavier upscaling or lower frame rates with VRR."
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spronk
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i love CEC, use it to auto power on my LG G5 from shield, consoles, etc. Auto switches eARC for sound system, auto switches different HDMI inputs if I power off my switch 2 and turn on my ps5 pro.
It works great on streaming playback device too, I don't need the remote for it as it can use CEC to use the LG remote for its own UI.