Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow (2026)

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Call me bananas but I liked Man of Steel and THE Suicide Squad.

BVS was pretty bad, but I did like Affleck’s Batman and Jeremy Iron is my favorite Alfred so far.

The Snyder Cut of Justice League also had stuff with Darkseid and his minions planning to come to Earth and find out what happened to Steppenwolf, etc. Guessing the following movies would have been a lot like the Thanos story, except the goons would have likely continued showing up one at a time and gotten their own movies instead of all showing up as underbosses with the big guy. They also alluded to Superman turning evil in one of the future movies and everyone else having to team up to subdue him. There were some good ideas for long-term plans there.
 
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I dunno. I haven’t watched the new Superman but my impression is he has his life together and walks the straight and narrow. Having his chick cousin being a sloppy galactic sorostitute seems like it could be an accidental commentary on the state of most 19-25 year old women now.
 
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When the useless CGI dog literally pissed on Superman, I was out. She is super hot but Gunn's Superman movie sucked where Superman was the least interesting character in it by design. He's the absolutely wrong person with the wrong take on ALL DC heroes, much less the Big Blue Boy Scout symbol of hope and wonder. All indications are they are adapting Tom King's 2022 version of SuperGirl/Woman/Lady whatever they are calling her, and this movie looks like another excuse for another rewrite of Guardians of the Galaxy, James Gunn's James Gunn as I have heard it called, the only movie he knows how to write. People are sick of cynicism and deconstructionism, and unless this movie finds a real emotional heart and center, will flop terribly and deservedly.

When Dr. Doom kills the Marvel Universe it will be a justified mercy killing for the whole genre, which should have hung up its guns after End Game.


I've had friends literally die as a direct result of themselves being alcoholics or someone else being drunk, so... I got little humor for this "Quirky Alcoholic Chick!" bullshit and James Gunn can go fuck himself.

I kinda want the Snyderverse back

sick jim carrey GIF

This is a fantastic, not-repeated-enough point. I didn't think about this but one of my best friends covertly drank himself to death, and have numerous intersections in my life where alcohol and peoples' problems with it has played a terrible part. I just completely dissociate his very sad end and others' issues from media portrayals like this. While there are any number of things that one can say about Gen Z/Gen Alpha, their lack of engagement with that lifestyle is a blessing for everyone. Now if we could get them to do the same thing with Socialism.
 
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Sheesh, at least post the trailer.



Yeah this looks fairly silly. Anytime a movie reminds me of an SNL skit, it is usually pretty bad. NO to a theater but I might watch this once on streaming like I did with Superman.
 

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I dunno. I haven’t watched the new Superman but my impression is he has his life together and walks the straight and narrow. Having his chick cousin being a sloppy galactic sorostitute seems like it could be an accidental commentary on the state of most 19-25 year old women now.
I generally dislike Superman. But he is always best when he's written as a Paladin-esque goody two shoes. It is interesting precisely because Clark Kent raised by Ma and Pa Kent on the farm in Kansas is truly, deep down, a good person. One with godlike power but is simply too decent to even consider using it in a way 99.9% of other people would. This creates and excellent contrast of Superman/Clark Kent and his surroundings. A large part of his personality is because he was raised in Kansas and not by the Kryptonian culture and all of its alien attitudes.

Canonically Kara was actually raised in Kryptonian society in that weird bubble city. So all of her attitudes would actually be Kryptonian, which is a weirdass crystal toga society bordering on draconian feudal empire in the best of times. When it's well written this can legitimately be interesting because Kara is not just a good person like Superman. Nor does she care about Earth like Clark does.

But I guess she is in her cock carousel years or something and that's just as good for James Gunn.

Pathetic.
 
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I generally dislike Superman. But he is always best when he's written as a Paladin-esque goody two shoes. It is interesting precisely because Clark Kent raised by Ma and Pa Kent on the farm in Kansas is truly, deep down, a good person. One with godlike power but is simply too decent to even consider using it in a way 99.9% of other people would. This creates and excellent contrast of Superman/Clark Kent and his surroundings. A large part of his personality is because he was raised in Kansas and not by the Kryptonian culture and all of its alien attitudes.

Canonically Kara was actually raised in Kryptonian society in that weird bubble city. So all of her attitudes would actually be Kryptonian, which is a weirdass crystal toga society bordering on draconian feudal empire in the best of times. When it's well written this can legitimately be interesting because Kara is not just a good person like Superman. Nor does she care about Earth like Clark does.

But I guess she is in her cock carousel years or something and that's just as good for James Gunn.

Pathetic.
At this point i dont give a fuck if he writes a compelling reason for her to be this way. Im sick to fucking death of this negative shit. Give me more street fighter movie trailers, hot lara croft and non faggy cynical tiresome solipsism
 
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At this point i dont give a fuck if he writes a compelling reason for her to be this way. Im sick to fucking death of this negative shit. Give me more street fighter movie trailers, hot lara croft and non faggy cynical tiresome solipsism
Totally agree. I don't care if it's "in the comics!". There's also versions of Kara where she's not a piece of shit. How about a big-titty Power Girl? I'd buy that for a dollar!
 
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Totally agree. I don't care if it's "in the comics!". There's also versions of Kara where she's not a piece of shit. How about a big-titty Power Girl? I'd buy that for a dollar!
At the end of the day, who really gives a shit about Supergirl? Superman I can understand, but his female cousin, ehhhhh....

It's just not a movie I even have on my radar. I watched the new Superman movie because it was on HBO, and God damn was it a slog. It was just so horrible, and I can't imagine this film will be anything if not worse.
 
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The Snyder Cut of Justice League also had stuff with Darkseid and his minions planning to come to Earth and find out what happened to Steppenwolf, etc. Guessing the following movies would have been a lot like the Thanos story, except the goons would have likely continued showing up one at a time and gotten their own movies instead of all showing up as underbosses with the big guy. They also alluded to Superman turning evil in one of the future movies and everyone else having to team up to subdue him. There were some good ideas for long-term plans there.
Oh boy this is something I know a bit about.

JL 1 was to introduce Steppenwolf as Darkseid’s Lt.

JL 2 was the “knightmare” scenario hinted at in BVS. Darkseid takes control of Superman or manipulates him to be evil after Lois Lane dies (pregnant with Bruce Wayne’s baby for some stupid reason).

JL3 was to be the big ending with Superfriends vs Darkseid.

now, the Bruce Wayne + Lois Lane sounds ridiculous. But I did like the Knightmare scene in BVS and in SnyderCut. I think seeing Superman being evil would be really interesting.

ultimately, I don’t think WB has good leadership. The comics have been a hot mess since the end of the New 52 in 2016. The movies have been atrocious (with a rare good one like the Batman or the Suicide Squad).

apparently David Goyer’s original cut of Suicide Squad (2016) was really good. I mean the dude made Fury (2014) right before it. He’s an amazing writer director. Fury is one of the best war movies to come out in the 21st century.

I think Snyder crushed it with Man of Steel, even if there were pacing issues and the beginning scene was too long for a blockbuster. Snyder obvi crushed it with 300, Dawn of the Dead, and I personally am hella impressed with his Watchmen adaptation (it’s very faithful to the comic).

but I don’t think WB would let him do what he wanted to do. We see that with BVS being a hot mess, we see that with Suicide Squad (2016), we saw that with Justice League.

WB owns the biggest superheroes IP. Yet they keep shooting themselves in the foot being reactionary and trying to replicate Marvel, and even Marvel hasn’t released a good MCU movie since Infinity War.

I think endgame was entertaining with fan service but an actual good movie from pacing, writing, plot development, etc it wasn’t. They killed the villain in the opening act. Then did a time travel alt universe thing. It just felt like lazy writing imo.

Spider-Man 3 was good to see Toby and Garfield again, but it was made by Sony, and tbh, I think it has the same problems as Endgame.

Deadpool 3 was great, but lesbihonest, that’s very much a Fox production white labeled as Disney.

MCU is dead, unfortunately. The Batman 2 still has hope. Super-strong-independent-woman-who-don’t-need-no-Superman looks like a GOTG clone. Not really interested in that as the actor has the charisma of a door knob.

Tom Clancy wrote alcoholism well with Jack Ryan struggling with it during the Sum of All Fears novel. Alcoholism can be portrayed really well, but, party girl with no consequences is not it, fam. Unless she drinks away her life or something.

I hope the actor and movie does well. But I genuinely don’t see how y’all are attracted to her. Different strokes for different folks, but she just isn’t my type at all.
 
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At the end of the day, who really gives a shit about Supergirl? Superman I can understand, but his female cousin, ehhhhh....

It's just not a movie I even have on my radar. I watched the new Superman movie because it was on HBO, and God damn was it a slog. It was just so horrible, and I can't imagine this film will be anything if not worse.
The actor for Superman had such potential, too. I’ve seen him in other stuff. He looks the part and is a good actor.
 
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now, the Bruce Wayne + Lois Lane sounds ridiculous. But I did like the Knightmare scene in BVS and in SnyderCut. I think seeing Superman being evil would be really interesting.
Hilariously the best version of Evil Superman was in that one fighting game Injustice.

Where the Joker comes to Metropolis because he got tired of Batman always getting the best of him. So he wanted to play casual mode and fuck around in Metropolis. Despite all his power Superman was simply unable to combat the sheer cunning and depravity of the Joker. Who just straight killed Lois and a bunch of others. The usual suspects in terms of Superman villains are simply not that interested in people. They always have some grander scheme that is less focused on the individual person. Giving Superman room to use his powers to protect them. This caused Supes to go full Hitler.
 
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This looks like Guardians of the Galaxy if you removed the Guardians of the Galaxy from it and put in two random girls. And a dog who maybe dies, so fuck that.

I'm not really interested in Supergirl, and am not a big fan of Superman in the first place though I did go see and truly enjoyed the last Superman, I was very surprised in fact.

I always considered Superman to be a relatively flat and uninteresting character, too "goody-two-shoes" to really be all that interesting, and too powerful to have much of a challenge unless there's kryptonite involved, but what made me reconsider my position on Superman some years ago was David Carradine's lines in Kill Bill 2 about how his favorite super hero is Superman. Almost every super hero puts on a suit to become a super hero or to enable their powers, the suit is their way to hide their identity. But for Superman, he's just Superman all the time, he has to put on a suit to become a normal human. And he acts like a human based on how he sees us : weak, cowardly, fragile, bumbling.

I thought that was a good analysis of the Superman character and it made me like him a bit more, even if most adaptations don't really consider that side of the character at all.
 
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My running theory...

Gunn was given the helm , but with the specific caveat that he HAD to make a Superman movie first to kick things off. Superman is the exact opposite of the kind of character(s) that Gunn can do well in movies, he's a mythological level good guy, the proverbial "Big Blue Boy Scout". But he bit his lip and signed the contract. So we get a Superman movie that focuses more on side characters who he CAN write as snarky, cynical, etc. (i.e. Justice Gang Of The Galaxy) and introduce Supergirl at the end.

Now we're getting Supergirl as a disaffected 20-something disillusioned with the entire galaxy. He's writing/directing a 20 something Gen-X'er, because he's a Gen-Xer himself. And that opening scene with Krypto pissing was him saying exactly what he felt about the movie he was forced to make.

And my "I'm obviously smarter than all of them" solution for this? They need an architect capable of realizing that whereas Marvel is and has always been more around character driven personal level stories involving issues and society where they happen to have super powers, DC has predominantly always been mythological level story telling. This architect should be able to then have the right directors handle the right properties. They can still have snarky dialogue and cynical character interactions, but make that the 90's style JL from the comics into a movie. They can still have funny comedies, go do a proper Booster/Beetle buddy cop movie. But they also have characters that are functionally part of American mythology (specifically starting with "The Trinity") and those characters are best used in stories that highlight their archetypes. Because Gunn is incapable of this, we get the Superman movie we got.
 
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Hilariously the best version of Evil Superman was in that one fighting game Injustice.

Where the Joker comes to Metropolis because he got tired of Batman always getting the best of him. So he wanted to play casual mode and fuck around in Metropolis. Despite all his power Superman was simply unable to combat the sheer cunning and depravity of the Joker. Who just straight killed Lois and a bunch of others. The usual suspects in terms of Superman villains are simply not that interested in people. They always have some grander scheme that is less focused on the individual person. Giving Superman room to use his powers to protect them. This caused Supes to go full Hitler.
I never played it but reminds me of a few things.

- in the comics, Joker tried to fuck around in Metropolis and Superman straight up told him, “Batman has the no killing rule. I don’t. Don’t test me.”

- Superman: Red Son comic by Mark Millar was based (never saw the movie adaptation). But Superman lands in Soviet Russia instead of Kansas, and becomes an autocrat communist super man and it’s wild.

- Justice League tv show: Justice Lords. Basically Superman becomes what you described and starts lobotomizing villains.
 

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I don’t understand how people can say the new Superman movie sucks because he get’s overshadowed by everyone else and then praise The Batman in spite of that Batman failing at everything. Like, you do realize that The Batman didn’t succeed in stoping any crime or saving the city? He fucking failed, that’s a shitty Batman movie.

But I accepted these movies stopped being made for people like me around endgame and that people like watching superheroes, especially white males, fail unless they get help from women and PoC.

Too each their own.
 
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Red Son is an awesome comic. I love it.

in the comics, Joker tried to fuck around in Metropolis and Superman straight up told him, “Batman has the no killing rule. I don’t. Don’t test me.”
I am a massive Batman fanboy so bear with me. But I love the idea that Superman has no defenses against someone like the Joker. Who despite having no supernatural powers like Superman makes up for it in insanity and depravity. Even an equivalent like Mr. Mxyzptlk (who I also love as a character) is far too tongue and cheek and not straight chaotic evil like the Joker.
 
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This looks like Guardians of the Galaxy if you removed the Guardians of the Galaxy from it and put in two random girls. And a dog who maybe dies, so fuck that.

I'm not really interested in Supergirl, and am not a big fan of Superman in the first place though I did go see and truly enjoyed the last Superman, I was very surprised in fact.

I always considered Superman to be a relatively flat and uninteresting character, too "goody-two-shoes" to really be all that interesting, and too powerful to have much of a challenge unless there's kryptonite involved, but what made me reconsider my position on Superman some years ago was David Carradine's lines in Kill Bill 2 about how his favorite super hero is Superman. Almost every super hero puts on a suit to become a super hero or to enable their powers, the suit is their way to hide their identity. But for Superman, he's just Superman all the time, he has to put on a suit to become a normal human. And he acts like a human based on how he sees us : weak, cowardly, fragile, bumbling.

I thought that was a good analysis of the Superman character and it made me like him a bit more, even if most adaptations don't really consider that side of the character at all.
I’d recommend reading “The Dark Knight Returns” (1986) by Frank Miller. It’s probably my favorite depiction of the Superman in comic form. Superman is basically the right hand of the USA govt and how that plays out against Russia and against illegal vigilantes like the Batman.

The Death of Superman (1992) by a handful of authors is also based and genuinely complex. A lot goes into the morality of who Superman saves, does he even need to be Superman, etc. there’s even a point where he’s fighting Doomsday, uses his super heat vision and misses Doomsday but catches a suburban house on fire with people inside. Then Doomsday leaves to Metropolis, so now Supes has to decide to save the people in the burning house or to stop Doomsday from killing more people in Metropolis. Either way: people will die from his choice.

Superman can be written like a boy scout or be written like a complex psuedo Dr Manhattan. It really depends on who is writing him but your complaints are hella valid on how lazy writers have portrayed him.
 
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