No, they've been all Sony, because Sony is giving them *way* the fuck more stock to sell. It's not even close on pre-order allocations from the manufacturers.
The Big Bad Console Thread - Sway your Station with an Xboner !
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I'm in the PS4 camp, and while Sean's grand standing for the PS4 can get a little old. I definitely think it's na?ve to think that GameStop workers (generally pretty avid gamers), aren't going to push the system they all know is more powerful.
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Shit, it really is going to be like Jingle All the Way this christmas..... no one wants fucking Booster(xboner)!
Yeah, this and other accounts close to it have been repeated ad nauseam around the net. I wasn't kidding about Microsoft having major manufacturing issues and that it would play a huge part in the initial install base.
And this is just in the US, it's far worse over in Euroville.
Yeah, especially since Sony is pretty synonymous with high quality displays. Hopefully they can match or beat the Occulus in quality. The more truly good VR sets out there, the better. That shit is way more interesting than anything else on the horizon and the more developers get involved with that kind of tech the better.
Also, wtb me some motherfucking Log Horizon.
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Oh its the pack mentality for wanting to play with friends rather than basement dweller lifestyle? Currently nothing on ps4 worth even considering outside of KZ for "me". If i was as concerned as you were about the density of the pixels on my console id just focus on my pc. Consoles are where i go for rpgs and game with peeps, and PC for the visuals. You stress way too hard over this console shit id swear you could be one of those rabid posters on ign forums.
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I haven't seen their Oculus killer, but all their HMDs thus far have been very expensive and have had narrow FoVs (Because it's intended to replace a cinema rather than offer a virtual reality experience).
Wait,what? That doesn't even make any sense. Are they counting the Xbone's R&D? I wonder how long it took them to recoup the billions they lost on RROD.
Well, I guess it's no wonder that Paul Allen and some of the other want that shit gone if it's been losing money this badly and they haven't made shit.
Well, I guess it's no wonder that Paul Allen and some of the other want that shit gone if it's been losing money this badly and they haven't made shit.
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I'm pretty sure the one they will make for PS4 will mimic the Oculus, seeing as the Oculus is getting so much press based on its immersion. If not, I'll just buy an Occulus!
The rrod "only" cost Microsoft $1 billion. I have no idea where they're losing the rest of that money. $2 billion a year is insane.
There's a little more here --
Goddamn, Microsoft. Wtf.
There's a little more here --
Nomura Note On The Future Of Microsoft - Business Insider
Goddamn, Microsoft. Wtf.
Out of those 2 billion in losses, does that include the 1 billion they had to put into an extra insurance policy due to the large number of broken 360s? Hopefully (for them and the consumers) that isn't something that will happen with the Xbox One and as such, should be more profitable.
Also, is that based purely on the hardware? Or does "xbox" in that statement also include the money they earn from software sales? Software has always been what earns the money in terms of consoles, not the actual hardware.
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This thread is great just to watch sean turn into a rabid dog and make sure everyone knows, over and over, how superior the ps4 is and anyone not buying one is a idiot(also add in the constant snipes at Microsoft). Maybe next generation he flip back to microsoft kool aid.
And before you can say anything, I'm buying both, just like currently have both ps3/360.
And before you can say anything, I'm buying both, just like currently have both ps3/360.
It's everything. Hardware + software + xbox live. Basically, Microsoft is losing $2 billion annually on the Xbox division as a whole, if Sherlund is to be believed.
I've been wondering recently why LG, Samsung, etc. haven't bothered entering the console market, and it's making sense now. There's not a whole lotta money to be made with consoles from the looks of things.
I cant find any articles past 2010, but in 2010 they made 1.2 billion on Live.
So there install base is way bigger in 2014 then in 2010 with more virtual goods to buy. I find that article suspect.
So there install base is way bigger in 2014 then in 2010 with more virtual goods to buy. I find that article suspect.
Business insider isn't exactly a mock site, that is a fairly reputable site when it comes to economics.
R&D into the Xbox one might be included in it too though right? Which I guess would amount to a rather substantial number (to subtract from Live earnings, as the they lumped all the divisions into one). Same with eventual first party titles that they have paid for for the Xbox one that they won't get any software sale gains for at the moment. That being said, the loss number is so high that I can completely understand being skeptical towards it.
Anyone know any stats about Sony and the PS3/PS4? This last gen has been fairly equal right, in terms of both hardware and software sales on a global scale. Seems strange for reports of Sony finally going into the black while Microsoft is then hemorrhaging money. Sony doesn't have to do much to win this generation then, Microsoft will pull the plug themselves.
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I was under the impression that the 360 had been profitable since 2008. So unless they're counting Xbox One R&D into this or give some specifics I'm calling BS