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Yeah so not sure if it's going to use "Backstab dmg" as the dmg in the formula, ie 60 x backstab modifier, or if it's addition, so 30+60 = 90. In order to be 3x modifier i'm guessing it is going to be 30+60 = 90. This lets backstab scale way up while white dmg stays steady

So rogue 1h piercers are going to be bis, 90 dmg backstab weapon is equivalent to a 180 dmg 2H or 120 dmg 1hb/1hs. thats velious numbers i'm sure Luclin is gonna have rogue daggers with more than 30dmg....

Also they modified frenzy a while back to allow it to scale off of both primary and secondary weapons to allow for a DW berserker so i'm thinking of dusting off my rogue/zerker/monk again lol
 
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I created a character on this last night but I don’t get a chance to play a lot but it’ll be fun to mess around on.

I created a SHD / MNK / ZER and I’m level 5 I think. Should I restart as something else or swap out either monk or zerk for rogue? I mean not that it’s gonna matter at my low level for the moment.
 
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Jackie Treehorn said:
I created a character on this last night but I don’t get a chance to play a lot but it’ll be fun to mess around on.

I created a SHD / MNK / ZER and I’m level 5 I think. Should I restart as something else or swap out either monk or zerk for rogue? I mean not that it’s gonna matter at my low level for the moment.
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Really play what you want. Leveling is fast, AAs come in fast, and then you test your build vs raid content. Raid gear except the BIS shit is super cheap. And even then you can buy the non leveled up version and level it up yourself to legendary.

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Jackie Treehorn said:
I created a character on this last night but I don’t get a chance to play a lot but it’ll be fun to mess around on.

I created a SHD / MNK / ZER and I’m level 5 I think. Should I restart as something else or swap out either monk or zerk for rogue? I mean not that it’s gonna matter at my low level for the moment.
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That build is very viable, you just won’t have any big damage buttons. Mnk / Zer / Clr is a meta build at the moment, but the Clerics big damage button is being nerfed a bit. I just built a Mnk / Zer / Shm this week and it feels real smooth. Plays like a beefy melee class that has additional useful AA that slows / heals / bigger damage buttons.
 
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That build is very viable, you just won’t have any big damage buttons. Mnk / Zer / Clr is a meta build at the moment, but the Clerics big damage button is being nerfed a bit. I just built a Mnk / Zer / Shm this week and it feels real smooth. Plays like a beefy melee class that has additional useful AA that slows / heals / bigger damage buttons.
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Cool!

alright, I’ll just stay as is. You can always pay those tokens to swap out classes anyway right?

I can deal with that if/when I actually level up more

which begs the question actually -

Is there like a meta leveling build that’s superior, then people swap out to a class build they really want at max level? Or is that not a thing
 
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Cool!

alright, I’ll just stay as is. You can always pay those tokens to swap out classes anyway right?

I can deal with that if/when I actually level up more

which begs the question actually -

Is there like a meta leveling build that’s superior, then people swap out to a class build they really want at max level? Or is that not a thing
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Some people buy the dragon tooth to get the lv48 or whatever pet that just destroys shit for you 1-50. Forget what its called.
 
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Jackie Treehorn said:
I created a character on this last night but I don’t get a chance to play a lot but it’ll be fun to mess around on.

I created a SHD / MNK / ZER and I’m level 5 I think. Should I restart as something else or swap out either monk or zerk for rogue? I mean not that it’s gonna matter at my low level for the moment.
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SHD/ZER/SHM seems like a good idea to me.
 
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Sylas said:
So rogue 1h piercers are going to be bis, 90 dmg backstab weapon is equivalent to a 180 dmg 2H or 120 dmg 1hb/1hs. thats velious numbers i'm sure Luclin is gonna have rogue daggers with more than 30dmg....

Also they modified frenzy a while back to allow it to scale off of both primary and secondary weapons to allow for a DW berserker so i'm thinking of dusting off my rogue/zerker/monk again lol
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Pretty sure Luclin daggers are 32. Luclin loot really wasn't all that insane compared to pinnacle ToV/Sleeper, outside of a few pieces like Katti Sah quest, etc. It also shows how insane some of the ToV loot was.
 
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Yeah that's the thing daggers scaled much slower because of the backstab formula....if we take out legendary its really daggers went from 15 dmg in velious/kunark to 16 dmg in luclin. They were 13 dmg in vanilla.

But still 32 Lego is equivalent to 96 dmg with the buff, or the equivalent of a 192 dmg 2h axe for purposes of backstab dmg
 
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Sylas said:
Yeah so not sure if it's going to use "Backstab dmg" as the dmg in the formula, ie 60 x backstab modifier, or if it's addition, so 30+60 = 90. In order to be 3x modifier i'm guessing it is going to be 30+60 = 90. This lets backstab scale way up while white dmg stays steady

So rogue 1h piercers are going to be bis, 90 dmg backstab weapon is equivalent to a 180 dmg 2H or 120 dmg 1hb/1hs. thats velious numbers i'm sure Luclin is gonna have rogue daggers with more than 30dmg....

Also they modified frenzy a while back to allow it to scale off of both primary and secondary weapons to allow for a DW berserker so i'm thinking of dusting off my rogue/zerker/monk again lol
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As someone who isn't as versed into the ins and outs of damage, would my SK\Rogue now do more dmg with the rogue epic than say backstabbing with the SK epic?
 
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First character is always harder because youre literally playing SSF until you get some cash going. Waht I did with my first character is stopped at 30 and ground out some AA at the giant fort in FM. I mean im not a well versed EQ person so its the only place I knew from memory that had good vendor drops. If youre more versed then you know other spots to make cash. But yeah by the time I had like 50 or so AA, I also had like 10Kpp in the pocket to buy some shit and make the rest of the journey quicker.
 
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mkopec said:
First character is always harder because youre literally playing SSF until you get some cash going.
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I donated $10 and got some of those currency dealamabobs and immediately sold 2 of them for 2500 plat

Which was enough to get 1800 HP at level 1 and crazy 26/20 weapons and a like 110/40 2hander
 
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Pogi.G said:
As someone who isn't as versed into the ins and outs of damage, would my SK\Rogue now do more dmg with the rogue epic than say backstabbing with the SK epic?
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Yeah im not either. People discussing discs, I win buttons and shit on the discord and I still have no idea wtf they are talking about lol. But im learning.
 
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Jackie Treehorn said:
I donated $10 and got some of those currency dealamabobs and immediately sold 2 of them for 2500 plat

Which was enough to get 1800 HP at level 1 and crazy 26/20 weapons and a like 110/40 2hander
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If you like the server and stick around they have some sweet ass bags for sale for the dono bucks. They say they drop too but ive never seen one except one from the Antonica dragons which was a 20 slot 100% reduce. But they have some 40/100 slotters there for like 25-30$.
 
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Jackie Treehorn said:
I donated $10 and got some of those currency dealamabobs and immediately sold 2 of them for 2500 plat

Which was enough to get 1800 HP at level 1 and crazy 26/20 weapons and a like 110/40 2hander
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Spend 5 on getting the ability to teleport group + teleport directly into an expedition (DZ). Best 5 EOMs you can spend. Can buy it at the teleport guy.
 
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mkopec said:
If you like the server and stick around they have some sweet ass bags for sale for the dono bucks. They say they drop too but ive never seen one except one from the Antonica dragons which was a 20 slot 100% reduce. But they have some 40/100 slotters there for like 25-30$.
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Nice! I saw those bags.

Yeah I briefly started killing shit in FoB with no gear…then I read they had a cheap donation currency…then I saw how cheap everything is in the bazaar and isn’t level bound…and I was like fuck this, if I play or not I’ll throw $10 at this just to gear myself out.
 
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Pogi.G said:
As someone who isn't as versed into the ins and outs of damage, would my SK\Rogue now do more dmg with the rogue epic than say backstabbing with the SK epic?
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Negative, you only get i think what a 30% penalty for using a 1 handed weapon besides piercer backstab penalty, and 50% for 2 hander. That hardly makes up the massive damage difference.

Rogue epic is pretty worthless as well.
 
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There is my dragon tooth buddy. Had one drop the other night.

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I'm on if anyone needs a guild invite. Just msg Kluen and jump into the bazaar and i'll get you added.

You need a dragon tooth Jackie Treehorn Jackie Treehorn ? What's your char name and I"ll parcel one over.

Update: Server down in 14mins. Might have to wait for luclin launch!
 
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