The Mandalorian & Grogu (2026)

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TBT-TheBigToe said:
So what are the chances they lose money on this?
I am emotionally invested in watching them lose money on Star Wars and Marvel.

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would guess they have a shot at making profit, apparently they were on a very tight budget and to get it made in California, they got some very good tax breaks. they would need like $400-450 so depends on how the international crowd likes it.

don't know if the burger king tie in is going good or not, but local bk has a sign up selling just the cups for $1 each.
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The box office accountants will say it lost money even if it does $1B (it won't). But the real money is always in the merchandising and whether they can get another generation of kids to be interested in the franchise.
 
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The box office accountants will say it lost money even if it does $1B (it won't). But the real money is always in the merchandising and whether they can get another generation of kids to be interested in the franchise.
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i don't know if they can get another wave of merchandising out of grogu. his stuff is now at every yard sale and thrift store i have been to in the last few years.

also is Sigourney Weaver the only main chick?
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uniqueuser said:
How hard up is the rebel alliance they got grandma flying an x-wing?
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At this point of the story, there is no more Rebel Alliance, this is the New Republic which very much underestimates the issues caused by the Imperial Remnant, which consists of mostly scattered and disorganized Imperial high-ranking officers turned warlords, and also Grand Admiral Thrawn (though his return is probably not widely known at that point).

So Sigourney Weaver and a few X-Wing pilots are more like the highway patrol than an actual army.
 
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Runnen said:
At this point of the story, there is no more Rebel Alliance, this is the New Republic which very much underestimates the issues caused by the Imperial Remnant, which consists of mostly scattered and disorganized Imperial high-ranking officers turned warlords, and also Grand Admiral Thrawn (though his return is probably not widely known at that point).

So Sigourney Weaver and a few X-Wing pilots are more like the highway patrol than an actual army.
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If she's part of the New Republic then she'd quite literally have to be a space cop, Mon Mothma completely demilitarized the New Republic. It's also probably too early in the timeline for the First Order or the Resistance to exist yet.
 
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Gavinmad said:
If she's part of the New Republic then she'd quite literally have to be a space cop, Mon Mothma completely demilitarized the New Republic. It's also probably too early in the timeline for the First Order or the Resistance to exist yet.
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Yes the First Order isn't quite there yet (and likely won't be mentioned at all, considering Disney is seemingly trying to soft-bury the sequels).

Sigourney Weaver's character seems to still be fighting the fight despite the New Republic's demilitarization, she's still known as Colonel Ward and she still wears the orange flightsuit of the Rebel Alliance, as opposed to the New Republic's blue flightsuits worn by Zeb Orellios or some other pilots we have seen previously.
 
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Runnen said:
At this point of the story, there is no more Rebel Alliance, this is the New Republic which very much underestimates the issues caused by the Imperial Remnant, which consists of mostly scattered and disorganized Imperial high-ranking officers turned warlords, and also Grand Admiral Thrawn (though his return is probably not widely known at that point).

So Sigourney Weaver and a few X-Wing pilots are more like the highway patrol than an actual army.
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Thanks for the clarification. I was ready to award you the prize of “most ackshually post ever” for it, but Gavinmad Gavinmad proved he’s still the reigning champ in that division.

The real question is what advances in urinary incontinence technology have been achieved in the post-Empire era that would allow a 76-year old woman to be a space fighter pilot?
 
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uniqueuser said:
I was ready to award you the prize of “most ackshually post ever” for it, but Gavinmad Gavinmad Gavinmad Gavinmad proved he’s still the reigning champ in that division.
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It's spelled ackchually.

Runnen said:
Sigourney Weaver's character seems to still be fighting the fight despite the New Republic's demilitarization, she's still known as Colonel Ward and she still wears the orange flightsuit of the Rebel Alliance, as opposed to the New Republic's blue flightsuits worn by Zeb Orellios or some other pilots we have seen previously.
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I remembered that the space cops from Mandalorian Season 1 (Carson Teva and Trapper Filoni) were still wearing the orange jumpsuits despite clearly being associated with the New Republic so I looked it up. The demilitarization didn't start until another year or two after RotJ and was a gradual process over the ensuing couple decades, so there aren't any direct canon conflicts with them or Weaver's character being in the New Republic military.

The whole demilitarization thing is so goddamn retarded that I'd never bothered to read more into it before now.
 
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You people saying there isn't anything worth seeing in the theater obviously should go see Mortal Kombat 2.
 
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Went to see it today with some friends and their kids and the wife and teenage kid.

Overall everyone liked it, despite only our family having seen the TV series so it confirms that you don't really need to know much about the Mandalorian to appreciate this movie.

That said, despite not having watched the review just above, sure it's pointless. I mean, it doesn't move the Star Wars saga forward at all. It's a single adventure lived by a few people in some corner of the galaxy at some point between two saga movies. Is Raiders of the lost Ark a pointless film because if Indy stayed home instead of chasing the ark the ending would have been the same as soon as the Nazis opened the ark and died?

It feels exactly like the Mandalorian TV series, except it's a longer format and higher budget. I'm pretty sure that's what most people who are going to see it expect, so I'm not really sure what the reviewers expected. It was certainly not going to mention anything about the unspeakable sequels, it wasn't going to move the universe in a new direction, it's just a longer adventure than usual for Mando & Grogu, and with more CGI, most of which probably went into the varied locales, the CGI for the Hutts and Zeb Orellios.

It was entertaining but it doesn't have a message, it doesn't preach about anything, it's just some Star Wars stuff with space ships shooting lasers, some action scenes with blasters and explosions, and stormtroopers and alien creatures getting blown up left and right.

It's a dumb adventure movie just like Mortal Kombat 2 was a dumb fighting video game movie. I liked both.
 
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Runnen said:
It was entertaining but it doesn't have a message, it doesn't preach about anything, it's just some Star Wars stuff with space ships shooting lasers, some action scenes with blasters and explosions, and stormtroopers and alien creatures getting blown up left and right.
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And is below JJ Abrams Star Wars work direction wise. Maybe the screenplay is better because JJ sucks at that. But the direction suffered here per RLM's review.
 
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And is below JJ Abrams Star Wars work direction wise. Maybe the screenplay is better because JJ sucks at that. But the direction suffered here per RLM's review.
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I can't honestly say I noticed a difference in the quality of direction between this and The Force Awakens which is JJ Abrams' best Star Wars work (not a high bar) but of course this kind of thing is probably quite subjective and I'm admittedly not some kind of cinema school graduate.

To me, the best scene visually in TFA is the Millenium Falcon chase between the dunes and Star Destroyer wrecks on Jakku, even though I hate how Mary Sue Rey can immediately fly this ship better than Han or Lando when she's obviously never piloted anything more than her small speeder in her life. Most of the rest of TFA seems quite generic to me direction-wise or cinematography-wise.

Mandalorian & Grogu felt more character driven, it's its own story without the crutch of a promised sequel (and what a shit sandwich the sequels to TFA turned out to be). What I can say however is that this felt like it was being directed / written by someone or some people that know Star Wars. There's some semi obscure to really obscure references in there, while I felt TFA was a very formulaic redo of ANH.
 
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Went to see it today with some friends and their kids and the wife and teenage kid.

Overall everyone liked it, despite only our family having seen the TV series so it confirms that you don't really need to know much about the Mandalorian to appreciate this movie.

That said, despite not having watched the review just above, sure it's pointless. I mean, it doesn't move the Star Wars saga forward at all. It's a single adventure lived by a few people in some corner of the galaxy at some point between two saga movies. Is Raiders of the lost Ark a pointless film because if Indy stayed home instead of chasing the ark the ending would have been the same as soon as the Nazis opened the ark and died?

It feels exactly like the Mandalorian TV series, except it's a longer format and higher budget. I'm pretty sure that's what most people who are going to see it expect, so I'm not really sure what the reviewers expected. It was certainly not going to mention anything about the unspeakable sequels, it wasn't going to move the universe in a new direction, it's just a longer adventure than usual for Mando & Grogu, and with more CGI, most of which probably went into the varied locales, the CGI for the Hutts and Zeb Orellios.

It was entertaining but it doesn't have a message, it doesn't preach about anything, it's just some Star Wars stuff with space ships shooting lasers, some action scenes with blasters and explosions, and stormtroopers and alien creatures getting blown up left and right.

It's a dumb adventure movie just like Mortal Kombat 2 was a dumb fighting video game movie. I liked both.
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First season of Mandalorian was like that for me. Entertaining and it didn't preach modern audience nonsense. It was the later seasons stopped me watching. It sounds like they just wanted this movie to keep the fans somewhat entertained, sell some Grogu merch, and not cause another internet firestorm. That works for now. Hopefully they can build on it. I like Star Wars but don't live and breath it's lore. Would like to see Disney right the ship.

It's been a while, but before Iger and Kennedy fucked things up, Disney seemed like the perfect fit for Star Wars.
 
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A few more thoughts and remarks about the movie but some are minor spoilers so..

- Despite overall liking the film, I have a heavy dislike for Pedro Pascal and his stupid ass virtue-signaling antics and it annoys me that he gets "credit" for playing Mando when really he's just doing voice work and acting in 2% of the film (there's like 5 minutes of him without the helmet, everything else is his stuntman / movie double. It's the same situation in a way as Robert Downey Jr. praised for his Iron Man performance when really it's only him being filmed in super close-up when inside the helmet with the Jarvis interface, and a handful of shots in a torso armor in some close-ups unmasked. But he also plays Tony Stark and does it very well, while Mando is just Mando and 99% of his moves or body language are done by someone who isn't Pedro Pascal.. I think the dude in the suit should receive more spotlight and credit, like David Prowse, Sebastian Shaw and James Earl Jones kind of share the Vader credit (and yes there's the swordsman dude for Vader too but he never gets credit sadly).

- Was surprised to see so many Hutts in this film, most are background characters but I liked seeing Nal Hutta, some of the Hutt ecosystem, Hutts moving about (all we had seen before this was Jabba slowly inching his way forward in the podracing scene of Episode I I think). They were moving believably like big ass slugs, it felt quite unique and interesting to see in Star Wars after having Hutts being major players in several stories and plots but having not seen much of them at all in live action outside of Jabba who could barely move).

- The overall plot of the movie surprised me a little. Based on the trailers, I thought the Hutt / aliens side of things would be the smaller part of the film and the actual threat would be the Imperial warlord and his troops, but it's completely the other way around. It's nice to not have a trailer completely spoil how a movie is going to be, these days it's becoming almost a rare thing.

- Was surprised to have a solo Grogu sequence of like 20 minutes with almost no dialogue, it was interesting, cute, funny, and a bit sad all at the same time with what was happening on screen, but it felt like an interesting choice to have such a sequence in a movie that's mostly pew pew action scenes and then there's this.

- While I like the Grogu character (despite recognizing his obvious money-milking merch aspect) because it's interesting to see a young member of Yoda's species we know so little about and because he's not just another Jedi character in a sea of Jedi characters but is his own thing in a completely different setting, I find it disappointing that they'll likely never be able to develop this character beyond the cute funny baby type. If Grogu acts as a cooing baby at age 50ish, he might not even be able to communicate properly until he's like 100 or be a teenager until he's like 250, and that means they can't realistically evolve this character and keep it grounded in the Star Wars universe and era we know and care about. I can't imagine even animated stuff about an aged up Grogu 200 or 300 years in the future doing actual stuff would be interesting because the stakes would be almost zero when you're so far in the future.
 
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