The Odyssey (2026)

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I'm more excited about watching a full IMAX movie experience. I've watched both T E N E T and Oppenheimer in IMAX theaters and it was awesome (both movies have flaws are aren't perfect at all indeed.
 

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So stoked for the 4th Nolan Batman film
 
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god I hate hollywood fake generic leather "medieval" armor. leather wrist wraps for no reason.

there are period armors that were cool as hell. memorable as hell. Bright. colorful.
they don't do this shit to Japan, and Samurai armor.





 
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god I hate hollywood fake generic leather "medieval" armor. leather wrist wraps for no reason.

there are period armors that were cool as hell. memorable as hell. Bright. colorful.
they don't do this shit to Japan, and Samurai armor.






I remember my dad took me as a kid to the Houston History Museum one year when they had gotten a massive display of medieval arms and armor that was floating around from Europe. It was a huge collection, and he knew I liked that stuff. I know a lot of it was ceremonial, but I remember it being pretty amazing. Want to say that was back in the late '80s or very early 90s.

If I had to pick a movie that did really awesome armor, specifically plate mail, it would probably be Excalibur.
 
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And that dumb cunt Zendaya is Athena, the patron saint of Greece. Nolan is one buck broken sad man. To think this man gave us the prestige and memento.

Rewatched troy a few weeks ago. Diane kruger was smoking hot and a good choice as the most beautiful woman in the world.
Aside from her balloon implants and other obvious plastic surgery, but I guess casting natural actors/actresses for period pieces would be tough.
 
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Byzantium was supported and part of the west until the Muslims wiped them off the map. Then the west closed their borders. For 500 years.

please brush up. The “west” was highly critical of Byzantium (and vice versa) for much of their mutual existence. They used each other from time to time but mostly it was war.

the popes and the west bent over backwards to plaint them as “not real Ancient Greeks” or “fallen Greeks” and steal the legacy for themselves.
Meanwhile those Greeks never stopped studying and teaching their own history and stories going back to Homer.
 

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jews gave you Christianity , are they western too?

Look up the actual history. The Romans gave us Christianity after they wiped Jerusalem off the map. The new Testament is nothing but Roman Sol Invictus written on top of the exterminatus of the hebrews and their religion.
 

Locnar

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Ok lets try it this way. The Greeks gave Democracy to places outside of western Europe too. So I guess that makes Greek civilization x,y,z civilization too right?

Stop trying to claim Greece for western Europe. It is its own thing and has remained culturally distinct from west Europe/the Latins since ancient times until this very day.
 

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Ok lets try it this way. The Greeks gave Democracy to places outside of western Europe too. So I guess that makes Greek civilization x,y,z civilization too right?

Stop trying to claim Greece for western Europe. It is its own thing and has remained culturally distinct from west Europe/the Latins since ancient times until this very day.

Adam and Eve where Greek, so...
 
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Ok lets try it this way. The Greeks gave Democracy to places outside of western Europe too. So I guess that makes Greek civilization x,y,z civilization too right?

Stop trying to claim Greece for western Europe. It is its own thing and has remained culturally distinct from west Europe/the Latins since ancient times until this very day.
Greeks where 100% western/European.

For simple fact they didn't practice polygamy (phillip being the outlier) like every other culture outside of Europe.
 

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Ok lets try it this way. The Greeks gave Democracy to places outside of western Europe too. So I guess that makes Greek civilization x,y,z civilization too right?

Stop trying to claim Greece for western Europe. It is its own thing and has remained culturally distinct from west Europe/the Latins since ancient times until this very day.
What evidence is there that the Eastern Roman Empire thought themselves Greek and not, say, Roman?

They didn't use the name Byzantine; that was a later creation. At the peak of the Roman Empire, the Greek language would have still been the most common or second most common language in the empire, that doesn't mean they were Greek.

No culture survives being conquered for hundreds of years (outside of maybe the extremely insular Jews, and even that is debatable). There is going to be enough influence to cause cultural drift. Ancient Greek culture died when Rome conquered them. Then Eastern Roman culture died when the Turks conquered them.
 
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Locnar

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What evidence is there that the Eastern Roman Empire thought themselves Greek and not, say, Roman?

They didn't use the name Byzantine; that was a later creation. At the peak of the Roman Empire, the Greek language would have still been the most common or second most common language in the empire, that doesn't mean they were Greek.

No culture survives being conquered for hundreds of years (outside of maybe the extremely insular Jews, and even that is debatable). There is going to be enough influence to cause cultural drift. Ancient Greek culture died when Rome conquered them. Then Eastern Roman culture died when the Turks conquered them.

Good question. We have many accounts in the written records from everything from Emperors, to Priests to educated/philosopher types throughout the middle ages of the "Byzantines" acknowledging themselves as Greeks. They ALSO knew themselves as Romans. The names were synonymous to them from the 8th to the 20th centuries. I can give you links I suppose, but just look it up yourselves.

Actually , we may as well say 21st century as in current news the Turkish press is all pissed off over the alliance between Greece, Cyprus and Israel and refers to the Greek half of Cyprus as the "Roman Administration". Yes you heard and read that right.

Those around them (Italians, Rus, even as far as Norway) continuously called them Greeks and their country as "land of the Greeks". The "Vikings" that traveled to Constantinople to serve the Emperors would make monuments back home in Scandinavia to their time and service in the "land of the Greeks", they are called the Greek Runestones today and are very common.
 

Locnar

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No culture survives being conquered for hundreds of years (outside of maybe the extremely insular Jews, and even that is debatable). There is going to be enough influence to cause cultural drift. Ancient Greek culture died when Rome conquered them. Then Eastern Roman culture died when the Turks conquered them.

What? You know "medieval" Greek is perfectly readable and understandable by modern Greeks right? The religion is also identical. You think all that was snuffed out just because the new rulers became Ottomans? The opposite, and Greek princes and patriarchs were given authority and rule over other Orthodox (Bulgarian, Romanian, etc) subjects in the Ottoman Empire. Very little changed.

You'd have to define what you mean by "culture". If there is any culture that we can claim to be continuous throughout the centuries, it would be Greek. Israeli jews can't even read the majority of "Jewish" medieval work, because its in a Germanic language and their "real" (Hebrew) language had to be artificially resurrected into a living language again......... I'm willing to bet there has been more religious change in Jews over these past 2k years than the Greeks.
 
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Locnar

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Greeks where 100% western/European.

For simple fact they didn't practice polygamy (phillip being the outlier) like every other culture outside of Europe.

The Romans were equally enamored by Greek civilization, so compliment taken and accepted. The East also claims it. The Greeks in the middle smile to both of you and say "your welcome". Actually since its now disseminated globally , lets call it a world culture.

But no, the French and English don't get a monopoly on Greek civilization, sorry.
 

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Greek and Italian aka Greco-Roman are forever intertwined as there is so much overlap in their cultures. And they have the best restaurants even today.