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Erronius

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So I have a buddy who plays guitar.

I do not.

But I'm half tempted to look around for something to make him as a project for a gift. Maybe a tube amp or some sort of effect.

So just posting here to ask if anyone knows of something they'd think would make a decent gift

I'm thinking an older hand-wired style over a PCB based amp. No reason other than it might be an interesting project
 

pharmakos

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So I have a buddy who plays guitar.

I do not.

But I'm half tempted to look around for something to make him as a project for a gift. Maybe a tube amp or some sort of effect.

So just posting here to ask if anyone knows of something they'd think would make a decent gift

I'm thinking an older hand-wired style over a PCB based amp. No reason other than it might be an interesting project
Maybe a tube-amp-in-a-pedal?
 

pharmakos

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Broke a string on my electric and am flat broke until the 1st of the month, literally here begging hoping someone will be willing to buy me a pack of strings lol. 💙
 

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Yeah IMO there needs to be some kind of melody behind all that technical shit. IMO music without a melody or some sort of soul behind it is not really music, at least to me.
I agree, a melody is necessary but most of the Dent I listen to does have that. Plus there's frequent ambient breakdowns, arpeggiated sections, synthesiser sections, diverse kinds of vocals (not just growling) etc.


Plus, I find those 9 string, extremely complex, odd time signatures and syncopated riffs very catchy. It just sounds so cool hearing a very complex and unusual riff played flawlessly. Besides, part of the appeal with Djent is getting a kind of controlled and deliberate "artificial" sound - you kind of want it to sound like something on the borderline of what only a computer could do.
 

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So I have a buddy who plays guitar.

I do not.

But I'm half tempted to look around for something to make him as a project for a gift. Maybe a tube amp or some sort of effect.

So just posting here to ask if anyone knows of something they'd think would make a decent gift

I'm thinking an older hand-wired style over a PCB based amp. No reason other than it might be an interesting project
I don’t know if I’d recommend getting a guitar related gift unless you know exactly what he wants. I tell people not to get me any guitar related gifts. I told my wife this and she still bought me a shitty $35 Jackson electric guitar for Christmas because she thought it looked cool. Biggest pile of shit I ever laid my hands on with action a mile high. The other electric guitars I have are two suhrs, two core PRS’s, and a Gibson Les Paul. Gee thanks hun, I’m sure I’ll play that a lot.

that being said if you want a project amp the best place to start IMO would be a Tweed Champ build. Still pricey but probably as simple and amp builds come and it’s a awesome little practice/home amp and perfect for Classic rock. Rolling Stones recorded alot of songs in the studio with that amp, Joe Walsh recorded rock mountain high with it, Etc.

 
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I still really like my idea of a tube preamp pedal. Something he can plug in to his current setup and warm up his sound. Can't see anyone not wanting more real tube warmth/gain options in their setup. It's the sort of thing that's easy to make but not mass produced due to the fact that not many places manufacture classic triode vacuum tubes anymore. Can fit into literally any setup and warm up the sound or add more gain. Can make a solid state amp sound like a tube amp (because there's literally a tube added).
 
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So I have a buddy who plays guitar.

I do not.

But I'm half tempted to look around for something to make him as a project for a gift. Maybe a tube amp or some sort of effect.

So just posting here to ask if anyone knows of something they'd think would make a decent gift

I'm thinking an older hand-wired style over a PCB based amp. No reason other than it might be an interesting project
How much are you willing to spend? Would a guitar itself be up the gift alley?

I was introduced to Aviator Guitars recently: Home - Aviator Custom Guitars - electric guitars and basses

A custom guitar company which allows you to design a ground-up guitar. I had a fiddle around and all the specs to my liking would rack up a $6k price tag. That's a lot of money, but it also allows you to design a guitar without actually building a guitar.
 
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Julian The Apostate

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How much are you willing to spend? Would a guitar itself be up the gift alley?

I was introduced to Aviator Guitars recently: Home - Aviator Custom Guitars - electric guitars and basses

A custom guitar company which allows you to design a ground-up guitar. I had a fiddle around and all the specs to my liking would rack up a $6k price tag. That's a lot of money, but it also allows you to design a guitar without actually building a guitar.
 
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How much are you willing to spend? Would a guitar itself be up the gift alley?

I was introduced to Aviator Guitars recently: Home - Aviator Custom Guitars - electric guitars and basses

A custom guitar company which allows you to design a ground-up guitar. I had a fiddle around and all the specs to my liking would rack up a $6k price tag. That's a lot of money, but it also allows you to design a guitar without actually building a guitar.
i only spend that type of money on my parents, kids, or maybe whoever is blowing me.
 

Julian The Apostate

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I still really like my idea of a tube preamp pedal. Something he can plug in to his current setup and warm up his sound. Can't see anyone not wanting more real tube warmth/gain options in their setup. It's the sort of thing that's easy to make but not mass produced due to the fact that not many places manufacture classic triode vacuum tubes anymore. Can fit into literally any setup and warm up the sound or add more gain. Can make a solid state amp sound like a tube amp (because there's literally a tube added).
These weren’t on my radar before this post but now I’m thinking about getting one to put infront of my kemper. Thanks for the idea.
 
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These weren’t on my radar before this post but now I’m thinking about getting one to put infront of my kemper. Thanks for the idea.

Doesn't Kemper have a bunch of preamp models? I don't think having a separate tube preamp pedal is necessary.
 

Julian The Apostate

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I’ll have to look into it. Like Pharmbro was saying I was thinking about having a physical tube might add a little something extra. I don’t really know why I care, my ear is dogshit and I can’t really tell the difference anyway. I mainly end up grabbing one of my acoustic most of the time anyway. I’ve had this Kemper a year now and still don’t know a tenth of what it can do. I thought I was going to be buying sound packs online left and right on this thing but it comes with an overwhelming amount of presets from factory that and I haven’t even scratched the surface on them.
 

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I've gone in the deep end with my Helix and once you've uncovered the power and learn all the bells and whistles I don't really see a reason to go back. Digital got gud.
 
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I had a lightbulb moment. I’ve been playing mainly rhythm guitar for years and despite knowing some scales, picking up bits and pieces of music theory over the years and having some technical ability I couldnt play a lead worth a shit because I had no idea how to use the scales.

All I did was memorize where all the E notes are on each string and where they sit in all the e minor pentatonic positions. I hit an E major chord slide up to a E note somewhere do a little lick in that pentatonic position, end on a E note somewhere. I started doing the same thing for A and after a week I can just about shred the 12 bar blues like a Bargain brand SRV lol. I just gotta hook up my looper and start going to town. I’m absolutely amazed it took me this long to figure this shit out. It also makes transitioning to major pentatonic so easy because your mainly just hunting around for and focusing on the root notes.
 
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I had a lightbulb moment. I’ve been playing mainly rhythm guitar for years and despite knowing some scales, picking up bits and pieces of music theory over the years and having some technical ability I couldnt play a lead worth a shit because I had no idea how to use the scales.

All I did was memorize where all the E notes are on each string and where they sit in all the e minor pentatonic positions. I hit an E major chord slide up to a E note somewhere do a little lick in that pentatonic position, end on a E note somewhere. I started doing the same thing for A and after a week I can just about shred the 12 bar blues like a Bargain brand SRV lol. I just gotta hook up my looper and start going to town. I’m absolutely amazed it took me this long to figure this shit out. It also makes transitioning to major pentatonic so easy because your mainly just hunting around for and focusing on the root notes.
Basic music theory isn't any more complex than junior high math. Keep going!

Most Western music is based on one single pattern of notes. Whether you consider that pattern to be "major," or "minor," or Mixolydian mode or etc etc purely just depends on which step of the pattern you start iterating.

In whole / half steps the major scale is WWHWWWH, and the minor scale is WHWWHWW. Now that you've got all the E and A notes across the fretboard memorized, you can memorize those two strings of half steps and whole steps and be able to find any step of E major, E minor, A major, or A minor anywhere on the fretboard. Again, major and minor are technically the same pattern, but at first it might be easier to just memorize them separately.

The chords of any given scale end up following a pattern too. In the major scale, call the chords by Roman numerals I-VII, and the I, IV, and V are major, and the II, III, and VI are minor. The VII is diminished.

Learn to build triad chords based on that pattern and you can get even better at moving around the fretboard than just by memorizing the pattern of whole steps and half steps. Literally a shortcut so that you don't have to remember the whole pattern to jump small steps of it from string to string.

A lot of con artists online try to sell overly complicated versions of music theory to make potential customers feel like they can't figure it out on their own. But you know what? I literally just described all of the music theory the average guitar player needs to be able to improvise a solo and at least stay in key even if you're not always hitting the "right" notes for whatever chord is under you. Past that you can learn a lot of the rest by feel as you go, if you don't want to dig deeper into theory.
 
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And hey re: the tube preamp pedal thing. I recently sold some gear so I could afford a Vox Clean Drive, which has a "NuTube," a miniaturized vacuum tube, built into it. I wasn't sure if I would really be able to tell the difference but it honestly kinda blew me away. The cool thing with the DIY ones tho is that you can easily swap out your tube to try to find the tube whose tone you like best.
 
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Sure, there's an upper threshold on the complexity of music theory, but it pays dividends to take theory seriously. You'll simply have so many more options with which to express yourself, musically.


This is the pre-eminent reason why I got into jazz and jazz fusion: I just found the intricacy of the theory to be unparalleled. If you can port some ideas, scales and chords from jazz over to say, a metal context, you could make some seriously unique and banger music.


Plus, who wants to be stuck in a pentatonic rut these days, with how proficient guitarists are becoming? Nothing's worse than being stuck in that pentatonic rut, wanting to get out of it, but being unable to get out of it. Altered scales, byzantine scales, bebop scales, lydian augmented.....it's all fertile territory.

I love Allan Holdsworth, but I hate, hate, hate Angus Young. Why?
 
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