The Tanoubliette: Pussy Hurt and Delusions or TTPHAD for short.

Tanoomba · Jul 9, 2016

hodj_sl said:
This. And no matter how many butthurt potshots and whining antics you try, nothing is going to stick either, because no one takes you seriously enough for anything you say to matter.

Not butthurt. Not whining. I'm glad you realize all you've got left after failing miserably to support your argument is to try to discredit me personally.

Chanur_sl said:
I guess all the times she got fucked in the ass confused me. I guess the seven months of text messages begging him for love also confused me or the other random rape allegation but not really allegation during her fucking all of her previous boyfriends friends.

"All the times"? What does that even mean?

Citation needed on seven months of text messages "begging for love".

No idea what "other random rape allegation" you're talking about or what it has to do with this case.

Clearly, you're still very confused.

Chanur · Jul 9, 2016

Clearly you didnt read the court documents.

Tanoomba_sl said:
"All the times"? What does that even mean?

Page 5

While they were still freshmen and before any physical relationship had begun,
Emma broached the topic of anal sex with Paul by private 1?acehook messenger as follows:
Emma:fuck me in the butt
Paul: eehm
maybe not?
jk
I miss your face tho
Emma: hahahah
you don?t miss my lopsided ass

Page 6

On the second occasion that they had sexual intercourse that spring, Emma asked
Paul toengage in anal sexwith her.

Page 8

On August 27, 2012, on their first night back at Columbia campus, (the
"Sophomore Sexual Encounter"), Emma invited Paul to her room. Once again, they engaged in
consensual sex in Emma?s bed. The Sophomore Sexual Encounterinvolved vaginal and anal sex,
followed by oral intercourse.

Tanoomba_sl said:
Citation needed on seven months of text messages "begging for love".

Sorry 6 months worth of messages

Page 7

Emma also messaged Paul frequently throughout that summer with messages
including: "wuv youuuu, "- "i miss and love you btw" - "Paul i really miss you - "i really mis
you - "Paul I wuv you so much. Please stay w me foevah" - "paul I miss you so much" - "like
u know when you tell people you miss them and you don?t really mean it? - i actually mean it - i
miss you so much - ahhh" - "pookie - i miss you - "I LOVE YOU - SO MUCH" - "I MISS
YOU MORE THAN ANYTHING - "I love youuuu" - "and l would LOVE to have you here -
omg - we could snuggle" - "PAUL I MISS YOU PAUL I MISS YOU PAUL I MISS YOU
PAULLL" - "DUDE I MISS YOU SO MUCH" "I love you Paul!!!!!!." These messages
spanned from May 2012 through August of 2012, and similar messages continued until October
2012.

Page 9

Two weeks later, on September 9, 2012, Emma messaged Paul, "I wanna see
yoyououoyou" Thereafter, Paul sent Emma a happy birthday message as follows ?oh hai
happy born day! you better be celebrating muchos, no? also: donde estas tu i mi viva - see i?m
so desperate with out you, i even try to speak spanish, 4- anywho: merry happy days!" Emma
responded, "I love you Paul. Where are you?!?!?!?!"

Page 9

30. As is evident from Emma?s Facebook messages to Paul during the summer prior
to their sophomore year, Emma?s yearning for Paul had become very intense. Emma repeatedly
messaged Paul throughout that summer that she loved and missed him. She was quick to inquire
whether he was in love with the woman he was seeing abroad.
31. Thereafter, she continued pursuing him, reiterating that she loved him. However,
when Paul did not reciprocate these intense feelings, and instead showed interest in dating other
women, Emma became viciously angry.

Tanoomba_sl said:
No idea what "other random rape allegation" you're talking about or what it has to do with this case.

Clearly, you're still very confused.

Page 7 for the retarded among us.

Emma further communicated to Paul stories and allegations of sexual abuse that
she had experienced from other sexual partners. She stated: "i ?ye officially had sex with all of
John Doe? best friends.. . - did lotsa drugs jk just got very drunk - well anyways - now i
have an std i actually hate John Doe like if a girl is about to puke - don ?tput your unprotected
dick into her. . . I realy don?t want to be known as the girl who contracted an std because she
was drunk you know? it is more his fault for fucking me unconscious - i mean i was conscious
but clearly not in my right mind. . . i was literally blackout. . . like ipuked all over the place.
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hodj · Jul 9, 2016

Oh he read it all.

He just refuses to accept any of it as evidence because that destroys his position.

So he pretends none of that exists or is relevant. He claims that her behavior is perfectly consistent with someone who was actually raped.

Basically, like I said, he's a disingenuous person, who does not take a position based on anything except how far he thinks it will allow him to contradict the people in this community.

Tanoomba · Jul 9, 2016

Do you realize that's Nungesser's testimony?

Even according to his testimony, they had anal sex ONCE (that was the time that she claimed was a rape). How does that translate to "all the times"? Did you even read what you linked?

Those messages you quoted aren't "begging for love" by any definition.
Things you don't understand:
- Sulkowicz and Nungesser were very close before the alleged incident.
- They often exchanged overly friendly, even flirty messages with each other.
- Nungesser was as friendly with her as she was with him (there was nothing one-sided about the messages).
- It has been established that the sexual contact was consensual at least to start with.
- No messages sent before the alleged incident have any relevance on whether or not Sulkowicz was raped.

As for the messages sent AFTER the incident, they've been addressed and explained by Sulkowicz herself. There are zero red flags in her story and there has never been a shred of hard evidence that suggests she was lying anywhere in that reasonable, feasible explanation.

As for the "random rape allegation", you're linking a story where Sulkowicz describes getting blackout drunk and fucking a guy. She didn't accuse him of rape, despite the fact that it may very have been one (if it occurred as she described). What the fuck does that have to do with this case?

Tanoomba · Jul 9, 2016

hodj_sl said:
He just refuses to accept any of it as evidence because that destroys his position.

Not true. I have said all of that is, at best, circumstantial evidence (FAR from being "hard evidence"), and that it is very subject to personal interpretation. Because it's non-conclusive and subject to interpretation, the only logical conclusion is "We don't know what happened".

hodj_sl said:
So he pretends none of that exists or is relevant.

More hypocrisy. I've never pretended anything doesn't exist. In fact YOU'VE got the market cornered on ignoring information not convenient to you (as I have OBJECTIVELY AND REPEATEDLY PROVEN).

hodj_sl said:
He claims that her behavior is perfectly consistent with someone who was actually raped.

Excuse me, Dr. Rape Counselor MD, who the fuck are YOU to decide how rape victims are supposed to behave? Why are YOUR "feels" somehow an authority of rape victim behavior?

hodj_sl said:
Basically, like I said, he's a disingenuous person, who does not take a position based on anything except how far he thinks it will allow him to contradict the people in this community.

You can try to re-frame the discussion however you like. This is all fantasy on your part. You took an untenable stance, and instead of showing a bit of integrity and admitting it (or at the very least bowing out gracefully), you've double and tripled-down repeatedly. Heck, you've even given up trying to defend your ridiculous stance and are currently trying to literally make your argument "because Tanoomba". If there's a more clear way to announce that you've lost, I can't think of it.

hodj · Jul 9, 2016

Tanoomba_sl said:
Do you realize that's Nungesser's testimony?

Her text messages were entered as part of his testimony.

It isn't a case of he said she said these things, though, you strawman retard.

This is why no one takes you seriously, at all.

All that typing you're doing trying to make your case? Everyone tuned that shit out ages ago.

Tanoomba · Jul 9, 2016

hodj_sl said:
Her text messages were entered as part of his testimony.

It isn't a case of he said she said these things, though, you strawman retard.

Straw man? What the fuck are you even talking about? What straw man?

Chanur · Jul 9, 2016

They had anal in the spring and in the fall. That's twice.

hodj · Jul 9, 2016

Tanoomba_sl said:
Straw man? What the fuck are you even talking about? What straw man?

This is why you're an idiot.

Just thought you should know!

Tanoomba · Jul 9, 2016

Chanur_sl said:
They had anal in the spring and in the fall. That's twice.

Sorry I read that as "Emma asked for anal, but it didn't happen that time."

Having said that... let's say they did have anal sex in the spring... So what? What do you think that proves? Serious question.

Also, I guess you meant to say "both times" instead of "all the times"?

Tanoomba · Jul 9, 2016

hodj_sl said:
This is why you're an idiot.

Just thought you should know!

So once again, you've made a hollow claim you refuse to back up. As usual.

Tanoomba · Jul 9, 2016

Things Jhodi believes count as a "straw man":
- Using his exact words, making an explicit, unambiguous point on multiple occasions.
- Stating a clear fact (that the information presented was part of Nungesser's testimony).

Things Jhodi doesn't believe count as a "straw man":
- Making claims about someone that are not backed up by anything they've ever said ("Tanoomba would rather Emma be a rape victim, than a liar").

You literally can't make this up. The hypocrisy is staggering.

Chanur · Jul 9, 2016

Tanoomba_sl said:
Sorry I read that as "Emma asked for anal, but it didn't happen that time."

Having said that... let's say they did have anal sex in the spring... So what? What do you think that proves? Serious question.

Also, I guess you meant to say "both times" instead of "all the times"?

I don't think it proves anything except you don't know anything about the case and are 100% going with feels.

hodj · Jul 9, 2016

Chanur_sl said:
I don't think it proves anything except you don't know anything about the case and are 100% going with feels.

This.

Tanoomba, I don't have to back up that claim because I already explicitly spelled out how your claim was a strawman....this part is critical...in the post where I told you you were making a strawman.

The fact that you somehow missed it, and still are missing it, that is why you are an idiot.

That is exactly what my next post to you said, as well. "This is why you are an idiot." Because you are a myopic retard so desperate to win that you cannot even process what is being said to you anymore.

This is why you are an idiot.

hodj · Jul 9, 2016

And now that I've looked back, I even spelled out exactly what your strawman wasin the exact same sentence where I pointed out you were strawmanning.

You fucking retard.

Tanoomba · Jul 9, 2016

Chanur_sl said:
I don't think it proves anything except you don't know anything about the case and are 100% going with feels.

I didn't memorize every detail, no.

They had anal sex (according to Nungesser) twice.

I repeat: So fucking what?

You sound pretty confident in your ability to make deductions based on evidence. Spell it out for me: What, in all the available information, leads you to believe Sulkowicz is lying?

Tanoomba · Jul 9, 2016

hodj_sl said:
And now that I've looked back, I even spelled out exactly what your strawman wasin the exact same sentence where I pointed out you were strawmanning.

You fucking retard.

I've debunked your straw man retardation already. Try to keep up, dear.

hodj · Jul 9, 2016

You can't "debunk" a fucking accusation of engaging in fallacies you fucking idiot.

God fuck you're stupid.

hodj · Jul 9, 2016

You didn't even refute it, you asked what it was.

You don't even know what the strawman you made is to rebut it, you fucking retard

Tanoomba · Jul 9, 2016

I never said it was a case of "he said, she said". I said that the information presented was part of Nungesser's case against the University. As such, it has specifically been framed to support his side of the story, with implications made that are neither neutral nor impartial. For instance, the claim that Sulkowicz "broached the topic of anal sex" is not a statement of fact, it's a skewed interpretation of a casual, jokey message.

Unlike you, I don't need to resort to straw men to make my case.

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