The Tanoubliette: Pussy Hurt and Delusions or TTPHAD for short.

Fana: "yeah tanoomba, the bullies are cartoonists not the religious gangster fascists that control massive oil wealth and use it to literally spread hatred of jews and westerners to billions of people, sometimes I wonder how retarded you are then I see you post in a thread that literally calls you batshit insane, have you no self respect or something? seriously what kind of retard does that."

Not surprisingly, you misunderstood. Again.

The "bullies" are not the cartoonists. The "bullies" are the people who INSIST that acting like an asshole, despite already being completely legal and protected by the constitution, is a NECESSARY and PRODUCTIVE (somehow) action and that anyone who says otherwise is a terrorist apologist who hates freedom and also deserves to be mocked and ridiculed.

And yes, the religious gangster fascists are bullies, too. I never defended or justified any of their actions, ever. "X is worse than Y" doesn't mean we're not allowed to criticize Y. Nice straw man, tho.

I don't care what the title of the thread is. This is the only place I am allowed to speak freely and you'd better believe I'm going to take advantage of it.

The Ancient: "I think the issue for some is that you seem to think not going out of your way to draw Mohammad is 'bending over backwards to appease'."

Cad: "I don't see why we should lift a finger or do any other euphemism you want to use to appease them."

Wow. Is it even possible for someone to make a reasonable point without someone else completely and utterly misinterpreting it?

"Don't be an asshole" =/= "Respect the beliefs of blasphemers"

Fana: "you don't have a point to misunderstand, you just try to live in the gaps between sides you spineless wonder."

What part of "Acting like an asshole to intentionally piss someone off is never productive" don't you understand?

Lith: "Violence is not part of the western tradition of debate and I don't respect it as a means of earning respect. Apparently you do, and that's fine, but I at least want you to admit it."

Wow. Apparently gender issues isn't the only topic able to make Lithose completely irrational.


Fana: "how is it being an asshole if you aren't inherently respecting that it's insulting to that belief? by acknowledging that drawing muhammad it somehow disrespectful you're automatically at some level respecting the belief."

I didn't say anything about being "disrespectful". I'm talking about being an asshole, ie: Intentionally pissing somebody off just because you CAN.

That's a stupid way to act and it only leads to greater conflict and more problems. I have yet to see anybody provide me with even one situation where acting like an asshole to intentionally antagonize people had a positive effect.

I'm sure plenty of people thought Rosa Parks was just acting like an asshole.

Mist: "Open criticism of it certainly was the largest factor."

"Ha ha I know you can't stand this but I'm going to do it anyway because FUCK YOU THAT'S WHY" =/= Open criticism

Kedwyn: "What the hell has happened to people where we are apologizing for attempted murderers over a drawing or who you pray to?"

Jesus, how did I miss this? I haven't seen anybody even come close to apologizing for attempted murders. I'd love it if someone could link the post where this happened.

Chaos: "More realistically, the whole thing with college kids stomping/walking on the American flag. 20 years ago I might have been right there with them because I was a moron when I was a teenager. But I find that shit really petty and offensive now. I could rant about it for like an hour, how stupid that is, how it reveals the privileges that these people live in and don't even understand much less think about where those privileges are derived from. And yet, it is a valid form of expression, their opinion and speech should not be stifled, no matter how stupid it is. I support their right to be jackoffs, unequivocally."

This is pretty much my point of view. I agree wholeheartedly that the RIGHT to be an asshole should never be taken away (and it won't), but I'm sure as hell going to rant about "how stupid that is, how it reveals the privileges that these people live in and don't even understand much less think about where those privileges are derived from".




Fana: "^see every post where you take agency away from islamists and place 100% of all action on one party."
Never happened. Thanks for playing.

Fana: "also you still haven't addressed the inherent respect you have for a belief by self censoring yourself to its whims. You sidestepped it by trying to reframe the question I asked."
There is no inherent respect, nor is there any censorship to anybody's whims.

Again, if someone tells you "Don't eat this shit sandwich or I'll kill you!", what are you going to do?
a) Not eat the shit sandwich because it's a fucking shit sandwich you would never have considered eating under any circumstances, while still being strongly opposed to the use of threats to attain a goal.
b) Eat the shit sandwich because FUCK YOU, I HAVE THE RIGHT TO AND YOU CAN'T STOP ME WITH YOUR THREATS.

Cue well-drawn cartoon: A man taking a bite out of a shit sandwich. Speech bubble above sandwich: "You can not eat me!" Speech bubble above man's shit-stained mouth, a corn kernel clinging to his lower lip: "That is why I eat you"