The Tanoubliette: Pussy Hurt and Delusions or TTPHAD for short.

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Tanoomba

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Quaid: "Who is ignoring provocation 'better' for? The victim? The provocateur? Both parties? The business? Society? Are you so arrogant to believe you know what is 'better' for everyone? Jesus fuck."

Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, and arrogance has nothing to do with it.
 

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Gee why would the targets of SJW's feel like they are being accused of anything? Thats so unreasonable. Those cis white male shitlords should stop being so uppity.
He keeps trying to make the false equivalence that anti-SJW is just the other side of the SJW coin. I would have no opinion on these idiots, were I not suddenly reading about how terrible I am because white, male, GamerGate, etc. My opinion of SJWs is a direct response to their actions. Their opinions of "me" have literally no basis in reality.
 

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Soy: "I don't celebrate people being assholes unprovoked. In this case, it's Kool and the Gang time, though."

Here's another fundamental difference between me and the peanut gallery: I don't think it's OK to act like an asshole, even when provoked. I have no doubt that you will incorrectly interpret that as "Tanoomba says you should just let people shit on you" when what I'm actually saying is "There are better ways to respond to being provoked than by acting like an asshole." And yes, as much as many people here hate to hear it because it goes entirely against their "FIGHT THE BAD GUY!!!" mentality, sometimes (often?) ignoring provocation is by FAR the best response, EASILY several orders of magnitude better than lashing out or acting like an asshole.

But who wants to respond in a responsible and productive manner when all you're interested in is the fight itself? Not the Anti-SJWs, that's for sure. Stoke that fire! Widen the divide! You're with us or against us!
Confirmed beta pussy that lets people shit on him.
 

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Who is ignoring provocation 'better' for? The victim? The provocateur? Both parties? The business? Society? Are you so arrogant to believe you know what is 'better' for everyone? Jesus fuck.
yes and he wants the government to get involved over feelings
 

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Soy: "He keeps trying to make the false equivalence that anti-SJW is just the other side of the SJW coin. I would have no opinion on these idiots, were I not suddenly reading about how terrible I am because white, male, GamerGate, etc. My opinion of SJWs is a direct response to their actions. Their opinions of "me" have literally no basis in reality."

I'll say it again:
"I have a problem with something you did." =/= "You are a bad person for doing that."

SJWs have literally never said a single word about "you", Soygen, unless you know some personally who have made comments about you specifically. If you CHOOSE (and you'd better believe it's a choice) to take something as a personal attack when it's neither personal nor an attack, you're in for a bad time.
 

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Fana: "yes and he wants the government to get involved over feelings"

Ha ha ha what?
 

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This is Tanoomba "not being an asshole" to Quaid, the one poster who goes the most out of his way to be friendly to Tanoomba. So hilariously hypocritical.
At least it's a step up from getting called an asshole and a jerk in the same sentence.

It's okay, I understand. After all, he's under stress, and that often causes people to behave in ways against their character. Or, at least against what they believe their character is.
 

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I put "me" in quotes, as it was meant to reference white cis males(as in the point of that post). I guess if we say all blacks are criminals, they shouldn't choose to take that as a personal attack?

Let's not confuse people who fight for real social justice with social justice warriors. These are not the same things. The latter are the retarded child-brained people who can't seem to function in normal society and want to rubber pad everything and everyone, so they don't get their feelings hurt.
 

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Quaid: "It's okay, I understand. After all, he's under stress, and that often causes people to behave in ways against their character. Or, at least against what they believe their character is."

Quaid, you took a stance I had made explicitly clear and twisted it into an exaggerated caricature that had literally nothing to do with what I was saying. If I won't let Lithose get away with that, I won't let you. The informal nature of these online discussions means sometimes we address people in ways we wouldn't IRL, or over a microphone at a club, but I apologize for offending you with the "retarded" remark (not so much for the "jerk" remark, which was pretty apt and not remotely an "asshole" response).

I also hope you understand it's not "all or nothing" with me. I can agree with you on one thing and disagree with another. I can praise you one moment and chastise you the next. Khalid apparently believes I am throwing you to the dogs because you took a cheap shot at me, but I hope you understand that just because you can be a schmuck sometimes, it doesn't mean I'm washing my hands of you and burning bridges here. And just because I respect you as a usually level-headed poster, it doesn't mean you have my unconditional support regardless of what you say. You get that, right?
 

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Soy: "I put "me" in quotes, as it was meant to reference white cis males(as in the point of that post). I guess if we say all blacks are criminals, they shouldn't choose to take that as a personal attack?"

What are white cis males being accused of, exactly? What can you find me that wouldn't, at WORST, just be some idiot saying something stupid on Twitter? What could you show me that illustrates why you had to go from "not giving a shit" to being an active anti-SJW? Perhaps most relevantly, if we are hearing the same stuff coming from SJWs in general, why am I not on the defensive as a cis white male?
 

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Khalid apparently believes I am throwing you to the dogs because you took a cheap shot at me
No, I am saying you constantly condescend and act like a total ass to everyone, all while chastising everyone else for being assholes or witch hunting. You even act like an ass and condescend to people who are going out of their way to engage you. It is so hypocritical it is shocking, yet you don't see it.
 

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Of course I 'get it'.

Don't get me wrong, I was not offended. I just found it comical that in the same hour you proclaimed, "I don't believe in acting like an asshole, even when provoked" and then proceeded to hurl insults at a fellow community member who you felt provoked by.

Out of curiosity, what makes rerolled an 'informal discussion' space? Why are insults acceptable here but not on say, Twitter? Why does attacking community members with insults get a pass from you, but doing the same to certain SJWs with insults like 'fraud, huckster, and con artist' get condemnation?
 

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There's thousands of examples in the GamerGate thread, the GamerGate subreddit and beyond. I'm not about to start putting them here. You wouldn't agree with them anyway, so providing that information to you is pointless. Your answer to all of the complaints is that we should just ignore it, while people are being publicly shamed, losing or stepping down from jobs and being silenced in their industries.
 

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You should definitely ignore that Soygen, and let it happen. It'll be better for you. Tanoomba knows.
 

Tanoomba

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Quaid: "Out of curiosity, what makes rerolled an 'informal discussion' space? Why are insults acceptable here but not on say, Twitter? Why does attacking community members with insults get a pass from you, but doing the same to certain SJWs with insults like 'fraud, huckster, and con artist' get condemnation?"

Attacking community members with insults does not get a pass from me, even when I do it. However, I like to think that when I succumb to emotional impulses and lash out with an insult, it is usually within the context of an actual point I am making and not a replacement for one. When people call Sarkeesian a liar, a fraud and a con artist, they are not making a point. They will try to justify the labels with irrelevant, outdated, debunked and misinterpreted information, but it's a farce designed to create an enemy to rally against. If they actually gave a fraction of a shit about what she was doing, they would criticize her work legitimately, the only way to actually make some kind of positive counter to whatever perceived negative effect she supposedly has. It's incredibly pathetic and transparent, and that's why it gets condemnation from me. I can not stand people rejecting reason and logic in favor of participating in a witch hunt. So it's a little more than "insults", which I thought I had made clear the many, many times the topic has come up.
 

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Attacking community members with insults does not get a pass from me, even when I do it. However, I like to think that when I succumb to emotional impulses and lash out with an insult, it is usually within the context of an actual point I am making and not a replacement for one. When people call Sarkeesian a liar, a fraud and a con artist, they are not making a point. They will try to justify the labels with irrelevant, outdated, debunked and misinterpreted information, but it's a farce designed to create an enemy to rally against.
holy shit lol
 

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Thats a lot of words to say "it's ok when I do it".

Also, fuck, drinking game, he said "witch hunt".
 
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