The Tanoubliette: Pussy Hurt and Delusions or TTPHAD for short.

Fana: "you wanna stop talking out of both sides of your mouth? if "we know" were playing video games why does it translate that anything we do in a video game translates to the real world, since you clearly just made the point that video games are known to everyone to be fake."

I have no idea whatsoever what you're trying to say here.




Chaos: "I don't care what you think she meant by that word or what she said she meant, "

Really? Well, there you go. We have our impasse. I think how she explains herself is more important than whether she has your permission to use a word a specific way or not.




Chaos: "Dude, I would play Roy a hundred times a day if I could, shit breaks and all."

Sure, so would I. You know why it sounds awesome? Because it's like living an alternate life free of real-world consequences. If Roy were a game, a huge number of people would throw themselves off buildings, sneak into locker rooms, go on joyrides, hold up stores, basically carry any actions that the real world wouldn't let them get away with. That's how people play video games, and developers know that very well. That's why I think it's unreasonable to try to compare video games with real life.




Chaos: "If you are stating that every action possible in the game has been specifically designed so that players would interact with it in a specific way, that's no longer an open-world, sandbox concept."

Not every possible action, no. But the rules that determine what is/isn't allowed are not haphazard. They are carefully crafted and put into place with intent, and the developers want players to explore and see what they can get away with. They also have a pretty good idea of what players like to do, and they make efforts to accommodate popular desires. Why use running around in circles as an example when we can use hooker/stripper killing? Do you deny that that became an unofficial stereotype of GTA? Do you think there is no connection between that and the fact that at least 25 modern open-world games include killable hookers/strippers, or do you believe it's just a coincidence, or that it's a consequence of trying to be more "realistic"?

OK, so you've said you think Sarkeesian is being deceptive. Would you call her a liar? Do you think there's value in calling her a liar?




Khalid, have you read and understood my earlier post directed at you? We've got to resolve this shit before we can move on.

Soygen: "Much like hodj, Tanoomba is unable to not respond to posts directed towards him."

Not true. I have ignored many posts directed towards me. Hodj, on the other hand, has responded to every post that even mentioned his name, whether or not it was directed at him. Big difference.

Gerb: "Yes there is value in acurately describing a liar who wants your money....as a liar who wants your money. If it saves the world from having to put up with even a single extra never-ending white knighty clusterfuck who can't just admit that he gave a few bucks to a scam artist, then yes, there is immense value in calling her a liar."

Now you know why I'm asking Chaos and not you.



Gerb: "I also love how you constantly talk down to fanaskin. Dude is five times what you are intellectually but since he doesn't capitalize words, you pretend to 'literally not understand anything' he says. Convenient, that."

Dude, I swear to god whatever he was trying to say there was COMPLETELY lost on me. Might as well have been written in Swahili. I don't give a shit about spelling or grammar errors that don't interfere with meaning, but if I sincerely can't even grasp the basics of whatever point he was trying to make, then his problem goes beyond missing capitalization.

Khalid: "If you remember the start of all this in the distant past, at one point he did admit she was misrepresenting Hitman probably by mistake or something. Then he managed to find some blog post by someone that came up with the whole redefinition of "encourage" and he came back to the thread saying that Thunderfoot's video had "poisoned" his view of the video. Pretty laughable shit.

Anyway, so even Tanoomba originally "misunderstood" her. He should at least admit that she worded it really poorly."

Well that certainly is not what happened. If anybody actually gives a shit, here's the true version of that story:

Like many others, my first exposure to the "Sarkeesian is a liar because Hitman" narrative was through Thunderf00t's video. It had been a while since I had seen Sark's original video, so I didn't even realize he had chopped off the part of her explanation that gave essential context. Thunderf00t had succeeded in framing the discussion to make Sark look dishonest when HER OWN WORDS showed otherwise. That's it. I got the context that was missing from TF's attack piece, and it became clear that his "proof" Sark was a liar was nothing more than manipulative propaganda designed to fuel a popular witch hunt. Needless to say, it worked REALLY, REALLY well.

So Khalid, did you read and understand my earlier post directed at you? How many times are you going to make me ask you?

Khalid, your description of events stated I was swayed by some blog or video's redefinition of "encourage". I was clarifying that it was Sarkeesian's OWN WORDS which provided the context needed to correctly understand her message, not some blog. You also used the word "admit" as though I had acknowledged some truth as opposed to having been swayed by intentional misrepresentations (which is what actually happened). A more concise and factual way to describe what happened would be "I fell for Thunderf00t's bullshit, but changed my stance when I got the facts."

Not that I expect you to understand anything about facts. You're still singing "LA LA LA LA LA" with your fingers in your ears to avoid acknowledging being caught in a lie. You can still redeem yourself if you stop being a colossal hypocrite. I'm waiting.