The Tanoubliette: Pussy Hurt and Delusions or TTPHAD for short.

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Quaid

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Harassment is watching her videos and doing ANYTHING except donating to her patreon
Oh come on, that's not accurate at all.

She also finds it acceptable to discuss her work positively. Negative criticisms (read: legitimate criticism) must be presented in an approved of 'tone', over the approved of communication medium, and to only a certain (low) number of listeners.

Its pretty reasonable when you doublethink about it.
 

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I'm not sure Quaid, what if you had a positive comment but didn't donate to her patreon? I'm thinking that would be financial harassment because you learned from her without giving back. It's literal content-rape.
 

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I'm not sure Quaid, what if you had a positive comment but didn't donate to her patreon? I'm thinking that would be financial harassment because you learned from her without giving back. It's literal content-rape.
But... She put it out there for everybody to see... Looked to me like she was asking for it
 

Tanoomba

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Fana: "public figures get harrased, men more than woman, what does that have to do with thunderfoot again?"

I dunno. Lith keeps trying to make this all about Thunderf00t. All I pointed out is that his attack pieces lead to spikes in the harassment Sark receives.




Erronius: "Tanoomba, graduate of the "I can't lose an argument as long as I refuse to concede a point" school of thought."

This might actually mean something if you could find me a single example of somebody conceding one of MY points. Heck, I can't even get people to admit that I didn't redefine "harassment" after providing nine definitions that mean exactly what I said.




Lith: "Every other poster clarified why you were an idiot."

Translation: "Yes, I was grasping at straws and I'm too much of a goddamned pussy to admit it, lest I lose face in front of my circle jerk buddies."
Got it.





Lith: "Some of that sure is harassment."

Thank you. Jesus, it's like pulling teeth.




Lith: "If you isolate ONLY harassment, and then say "holy shit, this is ALL harassment, no just disagreement here!" that is idiocy Tan; you don't have to be a researcher to know you shouldn't base an opinion on pre-selected data."

Sure, but you (and Cad) seem to be under the impression that Sark considers criticism or people that disagree with her "harassment". I'm just saying she receives more than enough actual harassment not to have to include legitimate criticism under that umbrella.




Lith: "If those mean and abusive tweets, lets say there is 100 of them (It's less)"

I counted 157. It also seems like these are being presented as a "typical" week, in that they don't seem to be very topical (the timing doesn't seem to coincide with the release of any of her videos), just vague insults and personal attacks from people who hate her. I would certainly like to see a comparison between that week and the week following a TF video, but unfortunately we don't have that data.




Lith: "Were in a sea of 100,000 tweets (Not uncommon for her traffic). Than the "harassment" ratio would be 1/10th of 1 percent."

I'd like to see that data too.




Lith: "These people generate harassment, they do--but it is not due to her being critiqued anymore than Palin's was due to Stewart making fun of her...Understand?"

Heh heh... "Critiqued". Sneaky little bitch, ain't you?
I mean, you're partially right: Assholes don't need a reason to be assholes. Having said that, there are absolutely assholes who LOVE being given a reason, and TF profits from doing just that.




Lith: "Over 1 week she got less than 100 tweets, out of traffic from over 100k+ people EASILY. That is not a high amount of harassment for a public figure with a viewing audience in the millions."

In what seems to be a typical week, she got 150+ harassing Tweets. How many Tweets did @femfreq get in total that week? We don't know. Seems like you're just making a bunch of assumptions here.



Lith: "However, the fact that you even attempt to correlate any of this to her being critiqued?"

Dude. TF or one of the other popular YouTubers makes an attack piece, Sark gets a spike in harassment, often referencing these YouTubers by name. If you want to argue that they shouldn't be held responsible, fine. But don't tell me there's no connection. Also, LOL at "critiqued". Sneaky bitch. Do you not understand there is a difference between being critiqued and being attacked? The fact that you consider these one and the same clearly demonstrates how out of touch you are and how unwilling you are to consider a topic with logic and reason if it doesn't suit your ideology.



By the way, I know you're a childish and immature narcissist, but ending your posts with completely irrelevant and outdated jabs about moon landings is pathetic as shit. If you can't make a point by sticking to the topic, then don't try to cover that up with junior high posturing.
 

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[TF] is giving them exactly what they want, and what they want is an excuse to shit on Sarkeesian.
They want to ridicule ignorant cult-of-personality 'Listen and Believe' hucksters wherever they may be found and in whatever form they may find them in. The fact that your pretend girlfriend is the current target is very important to you, but no one cares about your pretty princess. There were a thousand Anitas before Anita and there will be a thousand more after we die. The 'Criticism Is Bad! I Should Be Protected From It!' crowd has always been a historical force of evil. Fuck each and every one of their intellectual members. I want to ridicule them no matter what their names are. The fact that TF brought another one of them to my attention is a-okay by me and to him I would say, "Good lookin' out homie." Then I would give him like a super cool handshake or something to confirm our mutual membership of The Patriarchy.
 

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I love watching Tan try to make Thunderfoot out as some evil man and the leader of some harassment campaign attempting to destroy poor Anita's life. It's hysterical.
 

Quaid

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Sarkeesian receives 150 'harassing' tweets per week.
Thunderf00t has 400k subscribers.

If every one of these tweets was a TF subscriber, that would mean 0.0375% of his followers are harassing Sarkeesian.

What's the general population statistic for 'percentage of people that are emotionally violent dicks' again? I bet it's higher than that.
 

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Sarkeesian receives 150 'harassing' tweets per week.
Thunderf00t has 400k subscribers.

If every one of these tweets was a TF subscriber, that would mean 0.0375% of his followers are harassing Sarkeesian.

What's the general population statistic for 'percentage of people that are emotionally violent dicks' again? I bet it's higher than that.
Plus, that assumes that each of the harassing tweets is from a separate person.
 

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I dunno. Lith keeps trying to make this all about Thunderf00t. All I pointed out is that his attack pieces lead to spikes in the harassment Sark receives.
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Evidence? Show me evidence, Tan.


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I counted 157. It also seems like these are being presented as a "typical" week, in that they don't seem to be very topical (the timing doesn't seem to coincide with the release of any of her videos)
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Was right after the uproar about her 25 benefits of gaming male, and she was giving major national interviews at the time due to GG...But yeah, nothing topical.


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I'd like to see that data too.
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You seriously need to see data on a 400k subscriber base channel having 100k tweets, mentions and retweets per week on their content? Go sign up for an analytic analysis tool, otherwise believe it or don't. But that's a very fucking conservative figure given the megaphone effect that twitter has (Look it up).



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Dude. TF or one of the other popular YouTubers makes an attack piece, Sark gets a spike in harassment, often referencing these YouTubers by name. If you want to argue that they shouldn't be held responsible, fine. But don't tell me there's no connection. Also, LOL at "critiqued". Sneaky bitch. Do you not understand there is a difference between being critiqued and being attacked? The fact that you consider these one and the same clearly demonstrates how out of touch you are and how unwilling you are to consider a topic with logic and reason if it doesn't suit your ideology
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You can say all of that about Stewart. He reaches more people, he's made attack pieces, he references people be name....He's been claimed, by MANY people, to "attack" and not critique, as well--as I showed you, Delta dropped him specifically because of one of those claims from a powerful lobby group. The thing is, these aren't "attacks", people who label them as that are usually sycophants totally loyal to the target--for everyone else it's only somewhat harsh criticism and ridicule. Something ALL public figures are expected to endure. And to be frank, TF's criticism of Anita was actually very, very mild. It was certainly "entertainment" standards and not a dry academic critique, but it was mild compared to most comedians.



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By the way, I know you're a childish and immature narcissist, but ending your posts with completely irrelevant and outdated jabs about moon landings is pathetic as shit. If you can't make a point by sticking to the topic, then don't try to cover that up with junior high posturing

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You really are looking dumb here Tan, probably worse than the moon landing argument. However, how does referencing that make me a narcissist? Like what does that have to do with narcissism? And how is that outdated? It speaks so highly of your inability to reasonably judge standards and evidence, it is VERY pertinent to the current climate where you're trying to label mildly harsh critical pieces as harassment as "attacks". Surely you can see that, right?
 

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Thunderfoot doesn't make attack pieces.

He makes critical videos.

He does not attack people.

Its a baseless charge that demonstrate Moon Bat has never watched one of his videos.
 

Lithose

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Thunderfoot doesn't make attack pieces.

He makes critical videos.

He does not attack people.

Its a baseless charge that demonstrate Moon Bat has never watched one of his videos.
I think that's the thing that's really telling. He believes TF, and he really does, is harsher than Stewart....Either he's never watched the Daily Show, or he's never watched TF; because Stewart can be a lot more personal and a lot harsher than TF. But none of it rises to attack or harassment...being a public figure, being critiqued is expected. We regularly disparage and ridicule public figures who get defensive form just about any critique, because most people understand it is very important satirists and comedians and critics can be open, honest and even harsh. I do not understand why anyone thinks Anita deserves a special classification in this.

But the MASSIVE irony if a critic becoming angry over people being critical of her content? And someone defending that hypocrisy...well that's absurd even for Tan.
 

Tanoomba

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Lith: "Evidence? Show me evidence, Tan."

Like I said, I ain't got none. Heck, is there even a way to search through Tweets efficiently? Your word against Sark's until then.




Lith: "Was right after the uproar about her 25 benefits of gaming male, and she was giving major national interviews at the time due to GG...But yeah, nothing topical."

Wait a second, wait a second... "HER" benefits of gaming male? The video written by and featuring Macintosh? The ONE TIME Mac gets full credit but, somehow, this would lead to a spike in HER harassment? Incidentally, do ANY of those Tweets mention either the "25 Benefits" video OR the national interviews? Wow, dude. Confirmation bias much?




Lith: "The thing is, these aren't "attacks", people who label them as that are usually sycophants totally loyal to the target--for everyone else it's only somewhat harsh criticism and ridicule."

The thing is, these are "attacks", people who claim they aren't are usually self-deluded busybodies committed to "exposing" the target--for everyone else they're petty and exploitative personal attacks that ignore the actual points being made in order to generate controversy and clicks.




Lith: "You really are looking dumb here Tan, probably worse than the moon landing argument. However, how does referencing that make me a narcissist? Like what does that have to do with narcissism? And how is that outdated? It speaks so highly of your inability to reasonably judge standards and evidence, it is VERY pertinent to the current climate where you're trying to label mildly harsh critical pieces as harassment as "attacks". Surely you can see that, right?"

Lithose confirmed troll.
 

Tanoomba

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Agraza: "nothing is absurd for tan"

Would that were true, Agraz. Would that were true. Rerolled has shown me that absurdity not only exist, it has no limits.
 

hodj

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And you do your best to demonstrate that on this forum on a near daily basis.
 

khalid

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How does bringing up the moon landing make someone a narcissist? How the fuck can an english as a second language teacher be so bad at definitions?
 

hodj

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Well English is his second language.

His primary language proficiency is in faggot.
 

khalid

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I no longer believe that Tanoomba is a teacher. I think he was taking an english as a second language class, decided to embellish.

Either that, or he is this teacher in the flesh...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnlrK14OZn0
 
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