The Tanoubliette: Pussy Hurt and Delusions or TTPHAD for short.

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Make a poll "Did Tanoomba back up his claims on Emma being raped, yes or no" and let's find out.
 

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My "stance" is WE DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED.
But we do, based on a preponderance of the evidence sufficient to justify reaching a conclusion, so long as we remain open minded to future, contradictory evidence, should it appear, which it will not, because Emma was not raped.

And we all know it.

Including you, you disingenuous fuck.

Now either demonstrate the evidence to justify your assertion that she was raped, thus giving us the evidence we would require to change our opinions from the conclusion we have reached based on the evidence as it exists currently, or fuck off.
 

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That post of yours I just quoted, by the way, perfect example of what I meant when I said this

He keeps making long winded replies no one is reading because he thinks he can somehow punch his way out of this, but he can't.

You can't fix a fundamentally broken theology like you have, founded on bad reasoning and an inability, despite being an english teacher, to tell the difference between the colloquial definition of the word prove versus the academic, mathematical and scientific definition of the term, by punching back.

The flaw in all your arguments has been exposed. It is irrefutable. There is no argument to be had here.

A lack of absolute proof does not prevent a reasonable conclusion being drawn from the preponderance of the evidence. Period. This is fundamental and inarguable. If you don't like it, build a time machine and go take it up with Aristotle, you fucking moron.
I rebutted that shit before you could even post it. That's how fucking done you are here.

Just like when Dillahunty prepared a complete refutation of Sye Ten's introduction to his case for Presuppositionalism before he even heard it.
 

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But we do
No, you don't.


Now either demonstrate the evidence to justify your assertion that she was raped, thus giving us the evidence we would require to change our opinions from the conclusion we have reached based on the evidence as it exists currently, or fuck off.
I've just explained how I interpreted the available information that led me to believe there's a good chance she's telling the truth. It's not a certainty, but reasonable doubt is there.
 

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Sye Ten's argument at the start of the debate also exactly mirrors Tanoomba's argument regarding Emma's rape.

"Why is it reasonable to believe Emma was raped? Because quite simply, it is true she was raped. Premise 1: It is good to believe true things. Premise 2: It is true that Emma was raped. Conclusion: It is good to believe Emma was raped."

Its hilarious how close these arguments are to each other. You can just replace "God" with "Emma" and that says a shit load about the mindset of the "She was raped" crowd.

And the Dillahunty response is pretty much exactly our case here:

1. Ensuring our beliefs are reasonable is the important issue, not that they are 100% perfectly correct all of the time in all cases in all places, since this is not possible anyway. The crux of Tanoomba's argument pits the perfect as the enemy of the good enough
2. It is not reasonable to believe Emma was raped, because no evidence has been presented to justify the claim that she was raped. The claim that she was raped has not been demonstrated to be a reasonable conclusion based on the evidence presented.
3. Whenever we are presented with a claim, the default is not believing, because otherwise we end up believing all sorts of nonsense like the Moon Landings were faked, and 9-11 was a hoax, and Anita wasn't really talking about Hitman.
 

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1. Ensuring our beliefs are reasonable is the important issue, not that they are 100% perfectly correct all of the time in all cases in all places, since this is not possible anyway. The crux of Tanoomba's argument pits the perfect as the enemy of the good enough
This is a lie. All of my beliefs are perfectly reasonable, and I have demonstrated such.



2. It is not reasonable to believe Emma was raped, because no evidence has been presented to justify the claim that she was raped. The claim that she was raped has not been demonstrated to be a reasonable conclusion based on the evidence presented.
Plenty of evidence has been presented that suggests she is not lying. You're just pretending it's not there because it doesn't suit your narrative. You know, just like creationists do.



3. Whenever we are presented with a claim, the default is not believing, because otherwise we end up believing all sorts of nonsense like the Moon Landings were faked, and 9-11 was a hoax, and Anita wasn't really talking about Hitman.
I agree. Therefore, the default reaction to claims that Sulkowicz made false rape accusations is to not believe them unless conclusive evidence supports that claim. It doesn't.
 

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Again, Tanoomba, this isn't something you can swing your way out of.

Your world view has been deconstructed down to its core fallacies.

Its over.

Deal with it.
 

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Not to any outside observers you're not.
Unlike, Jhodi, I've responded to every single challenge leveled at me, patiently and honestly. It's all there. As usual, you're just ignoring reality to push your narrative.
 

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Again, Tanoomba, this isn't something you can swing your way out of.

Your world view has been deconstructed down to its core fallacies.

Its over.

Deal with it.
I accept your admission of defeat. Don't worry, maybe you'll get me next time. You just have to stop shutting out all information that goes against your narrative and stop lying through your teeth. That's really your Achille's heel.
 

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Again, Tanoomba.

This isn't something you can swing your way out of.

Your worldview has been deconstructed down to its core fallacies.

Its over.

Your form of argumentation will never work with anyone here ever again who is familiar with this discussion.

You're done.

Start progressing through the stages of grief and mourning and deal with it.
 

Tanoomba

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Again, Tanoomba.

This isn't something you can swing your way out of.

Your worldview has been deconstructed down to its core fallacies.

Its over.

Your form of argumentation will never work with anyone here ever again who is familiar with this discussion.

You're done.

Start progressing through the stages of grief and mourning and deal with it.
There's nothing to "swing out of", Jhodi.

Your entire assertion of this scenario is false.

I have never claimed Sulkowicz was raped. Feel free to prove me wrong by linking my post where I made this claim. If you can't do that (and you can't), you lose.
 

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By the way, Jhodi, you're welcome. If it wasn't for this thread, we'd both be RRPed right now.
 

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Again, Tanoomba.

It doesn't matter how much you type.

No amount of typing is going to fix the issue you have with your argument here.

It is unfixable. You cannot bridge the gap between your argument and the evidence as it exists.

Begin progressing through the 6 stages of grief now, for your own sake.
 

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Dude, you're trying to win an argument against a stance I never took.

Congratulations on creating your own opponent in your head and winning the argument you've also created in your head.

It's OK, Jhodi. You've been wrong before. You got over it then, you'll get over it again.
 

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I'm not reading anything you're typing.

There is no way to fix this argument.

Everyone here sees it. Everyone here acknowledges it but you.

This is an intervention, Tanoomba. You are at Ray Cumfart "The banana is the atheist's nightmare" levels of delusional and willfully ignorant right now. Everyone sees it. You see it.

The time has come to abandon this farce.
 
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