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started binging this thinking the finale drops this week, oops they split the last 2 into 2 weeks instead of double drops every week like before. Oh well.

Show starts off really strong the first 4 episodes, Bettany and Spader are fantastic and the rest of the AI helpers are pretty good too, Paladin is really awesome too. Then the show drops off a cliff in episode 5 when a dumb bald black bitch comes on screen and steals all the screen time while she is also stealing body parts. It pretty much gets worse every episode after that, and the last episode sucked. Its not sexism either, Tommy is a fucking shitty actor/character too.

Way too much retconning going on of AI/Stark tech, its incredibly stupid that 100 years ago a dude was writing AI code lol. On what, a fucking etch a sketch?!? Its retarded that nanotech from 20 years ago would be more powerful than the tech advanced in the past 20 years by Stark, Banner, Wakanda, and whatever other powers are out there. Its retarded that 20 year old biolocks wouldn't be easily defeated by the quantum computers of Vision, Friday, etc. Its retarded that Vision looks like the Human Torch (OG), we literally saw a chinese chick build Vision (Ultron) in Age of Ultron out of vibranium.

Just a whole lot of retconning to make a shitty story, it reminds me a lot of Star Trek Picard and Discovery and what do you know, the showrunner was the showrunner for Picard so it suddenly makes a lot more sense.

Oh well, finale next week and I'll watch but I expect more bullshit and no appearances by Wanda, the only thing that could save the show. End the Marvel live TV experiment with this crap and put all these characters to rest, they and we deserve much better.
 
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This is almost certainly drawing on the OG human torch story, so the clockwork tech thing I can give a pass. Its a fucking comic book, not a Nolan film. The Jacosta pallete swap is something I do not care about and I will even go as far to say that the actress playing her is good, it is just a stupid character from its inception in comics and the short story format of these limited series does it no favors. The Tommy and his Girlfriend shit is definitely the weak point, but it was key for vision 2,0 to get his identity back so it had to be in there. I actually liked the last episode for one simple reason, James Spader. The dude is strapping this show to his back and absolutely killing it. That alone makes it worth watching.
 
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Malakriss

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I believe James Spader exclaiming "What the fu-" accurately describes the direction this series went.
 
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Homsar

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Kajiimagi said:
It's a jogger , save yourself don't watch. I'm actively hate watching it now.
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ok im guessing youre talking about the lady that had Stark steal tech from her or something? i quit when they started trying to blame starks for stealing lol. not say going to watch the episode but didnt they say vision was only created because his dad stole from the black lady ? it really made no sense
 
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Malakriss

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Homsar said:
ok im guessing youre talking about the lady that had Stark steal tech from her or something? i quit when they started trying to blame starks for stealing lol
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nono they totally neutered Ultron's alien / mind stone origin in order to give credit to some guy from a century ago who "wrote the code" for every AI that exists, and his work was later sold to Stark by the witch from Wicked. edit: oh it was a different actress, whatever.

Then it gets more convoluted from there, but it doesn't really matter in the end anyways the MCU proceeds on as if 98% of this didn't happen.
 
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Homsar

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nono they totalled neutered Ultron's alien / mind stone origin in order to give credit some guy from a century ago who "wrote the code" for every AI that exists, and his work was later sold to Stark by the witch from Wicked.

Then it gets more convoluted from there, but it doesn't really matter in the end anyways the MCU proceeds on as if 98% of this didn't happen.
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wut haha.. im actually confused and pissed trying to make sense of anything you are saying. I dont want to watch to figure out
 
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Kajiimagi

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rather upset I was sucked in by the 1st half of this shitshow. At least I didn't give Disney a $.01.
 
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Homsar said:
wut haha.. im actually confused and pissed trying to make sense of anything you are saying. I dont want to watch to figure out
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That's the short version.

The long version (I didn't watch it, one of my friends sent this to me to explain):
In the series, replicant Vision is having trouble coming to terms with his humanity. Since he's not the OG Vision, and doesn't have the mind stone, he feels something is missing. Not to mention that this version of Vision is legitimately a nerfed copy, but I digress.

Through the process of trying to rebuild his own identity, he has a series of AI in his Mind Palace that are helping him figure shit out. You have Jarvis, Friday, Ultron, and three other useless AI that were never characters or referred to before this series, but they're all touted as Stark creations. One of the things it establishes is that their avatars are based off of real life people that held importance to Tony, but more so pointing out that all AI avatars in the series are based off of people who lived at one point.

So, early in the fourth episode, they have their "back to the beginning" moment and it is explained that they have to visit the company that originally created AI, laying the groundwork for Tony to create them. However, tragically, it is pointed out that the creative mind running the company passed away in 2008, and that person was indeed a black woman. Through thumbnails, I've since pieced together that she is the main villain AI in the series.

So yeah, they're saying this random lady who never existed before created AI the same year that Ironman was released, where the Ironman suit was famously automated by Jarvis, an AI Tony reportedly developed over his college years by himself.
 
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That only goes up to a certain episode, the explanation becomes even MORE absurd after that.
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He was only on episode 4 a few day ago when he sent me that. I checked out of the MCU after Endgame, and I don't really care. I've just seen that memes about Ironheart and then this shit, and he said he was going to watch it so he could talk shit about it.
 
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Well finished, there is a tie it to the new Avengers at the very very very end . Not worth watching IMHO.
 
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Weird of Marvel to admit that more of the Doomsday leaks are true, otherwise there's about 90 total minutes of decent show in this series, depending on if you like the meta-TV stuff in the finale.
 
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