Weight Loss Thread

Ossoi_sl said:

Where does it say that anyone buying the book can replicate those results?

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Come the fuck on, you can't be serious?

That's like saying advertisements that say shit like, "Soandso made $10,000 a month with this plan" aren't using that statement to sell it to you. If you're going with that argument, you make it sound like this book is equivalent to that bullshit.

Eidal_sl said:

I don't want your money. This is what I'm referring to.

If your point now is that the book doesn'tpromisethis, well... technically you are correct. They are straight up lying about the results someone else had in order to sell their product. This sucks for kids who buy these mags, try these programs, and get discouraged/frustrated with their results.

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12 Week Body Plan Transformations | CarlGottlieb.com<--- I already posted actual results from people that followed the program. The guy who is hosting those pictures blogged nearly every day of his 12 weeks on the program - they don't look discouraged/frustrated to me.

I was training 3 x a week, I wasn't the greatest trainer and I certainly didn't enjoy training as much as I do today. Towards the end of my sessions I would rush the reps or simply not do as many as I was supposed to. I certainly didn't push myself as hard as I should/could have done. I also did not know as much about nutrition, calorie counting, TDEE, macro tracking as I did today.

My point is, if I can get decent results in 6 months, whilst training in an environment that was 1 trainer to 4 clients, and not giving 100% every session or knowing as much about nutrition/my body - and with fairly frequent nights out and holidays during those 6 months. Then it really is not a stretch for me to believe that someone with the specific goal of being on a cover of magazine in 3 months, training 4 x a week, with 1 to 1 supervision from a World Leader in that field (eg someone monitoring every single rep for form and proper weight load), who sticks to their diet/supplement regime 100% of the time and has the benefits of the Trainers expertise e.g monitoring food intake and knowing when to increase/decrease calories and specific amounts of carbs to cycle - can get better results in half the time.

Himeo_sl said:

No homo, Ossoi bro. But you're looking good. Keep it up!

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Cheers

If their supplement regime includes $750/month in steroids, hgh, and testosterone, then yes.

No one is saying that you didn't do well on the program. It's just that getting twice your results in half the time, like the book claims, takes more than a better diet and harder work. You could also have seen similar or better results on a different program that is freely available on the Internet.

I hate you Ossoi. Seriously though, that's basically my end goal for how I'd like to look. I bet you are just rolling in pussy. No homo.

The elliptical.. fuck those things. The only recommendation I have is "fuck those things"

My wife bought a Schwinn elliptical from Amazon for somewhere in the $500 or $600 range, I can check the model number when I get home. Not that the model matters though, because we bought it around 7 years ago I think. It still works well, and we actually use it regularly (it's not a clothes rack).

Deathwing_sl said:

Any non-personal reasons? I've pushed for an elliptical because I'd rather not she fuck up her joints as she loses weight.

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They're probably decent for some cardio weight loss but that's about it

8 weeks into my diet now. Down from 96.5kg to 88kg (at 194cm). At this point, there's a a fair bit of fat left around the waist, but the rest of the body is slimmed down heavily. Almost too much, as I can see ribs poking out at the sides. The plan is to stick with it for another 6 weeks, until the end of July, and then start a slow bulk going into autumn.

Accessory lifts and bench press have kept strong through the diet, but squats and deadlifts have suffered. Mostly as my lower back has been acting out, and I suspect it has to do with the diet. I've cutsomethingout of the diet that kept inflammation down (must be garlic!), and now I need to be super careful on heavy weights.

Next challenge is to find a macro/calorie-combination that fits for a slow bulk.

Daelos_sl said:

8 weeks into my diet now. Down from 96.5kg to 88kg (at 194cm). At this point, there's a a fair bit of fat left around the waist, but the rest of the body is slimmed down heavily. Almost too much, as I can see ribs poking out at the sides. The plan is to stick with it for another 6 weeks, until the end of July, and then start a slow bulk going into autumn.

Accessory lifts and bench press have kept strong through the diet, but squats and deadlifts have suffered. Mostly as my lower back has been acting out, and I suspect it has to do with the diet. I've cutsomethingout of the diet that kept inflammation down (must be garlic!), and now I need to be super careful on heavy weights.

Next challenge is to find a macro/calorie-combination that fits for a slow bulk.

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What would you estimate your body fat % is currently at? What is your current diet?

Fish Oil helps with inflammation, get a good quality brand in liquid form.

Ossoi_sl said:

What would you estimate your body fat % is currently at? What is your current diet?

Fish Oil helps with inflammation, get a good quality brand in liquid form.

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Calculators that look at waistline, neckline, height and weight put me at ~12-14%, but they are notorious for underestimating. I haven't had it measured, but my best guess it that I'm sitting at ~18-21%.

Thanks for the reminder about fish oil. I keep forgetting!

Daelos_sl said:

Calculators that look at waistline, neckline, height and weight put me at ~12-14%, but they are notorious for underestimating. I haven't had it measured, but my best guess it that I'm sitting at ~18-21%.

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Yeah, if I put in my neck/waist on the phone app I use to track my weight, it puts me at 2%!

I would drop all carbs for a week, except for green leafy veg (spinach, kale etc) and increase protein to ideally 4g per kg. If you feel/look leaner around the waist then I would suggest keep doing that for another 1-2 weeks - by which point you should be noticeably leaner and you can then reintroduce carbs post workout

LachiusTZ_sl said:

Anyone know of a food with little to no carbs / protein, a lot of fat, but no saturated fat? Cause, I cant find one . . . Lol

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Avocado

LachiusTZ_sl said:

Anyone know of a food with little to no carbs / protein, a lot of fat, but no saturated fat? Cause, I cant find one . . . Lol

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Olive Oil / Olives?

What are you using it for?

0 saturated fat? That's not likely to find. Low in saturated fat? Nuts.